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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:40pm
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I usually tell them something like if they keep on this topic/argument/wild goose chase its going to cost them. Some get it, some dont, and some dont care. So I look at it as the coach chose to get a T.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:45pm
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Each of us handles things on our own and I have been given what I think is sound advice to simply say "Coach, I've heard enough" and walk away...if they persist, say it again with the stop sign and if they continue then move to T.

I feel what you are doing is baiting or challenging them..."It's gonna cost you" is like daring them to say something or telling your kids, "If you do that one more time...."
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I usually tell them something like if they keep on this topic/argument/wild goose chase its going to cost them. Some get it, some dont, and some dont care. So I look at it as the coach chose to get a T.
In other words, he baits them into it because he is a smart-@ss kid.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:50pm
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why is that a bait? I am up front with them that they are on thin ice. I see it better than just giving them a T.

And funny comment Nevada -- you might even be surprised that I did playoffs games in the past as well.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 01:02pm
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Well, there is no provision in the rule book that I am aware of that says you have to give any warning but generally I simply tell them I've heard enough....I have just lowered the boom before though without any warning...

Why do I feel this way (baiting)...probably by what you wrote you say to them...
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It's going to cost you...
Doesn't simply stating, "Coach I've heard enough", let them know they have worn out your eardrum?

I guess it's that ..
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It's going to cost you...
just sounds like an invite or challenge or baiting them to say something else so you can whack them and show them who is boss.

Like I said, we each handle thing in our own manner....what I'm saying may not be in your comfort zone as what you say would not be in mine....
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 01:17pm
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I prefer the direct approach with coaches I'm familiar with.

"If you yell across the court again, you will receive a technical foul."

Why would you use a phrase like, "it'll cost ya."?
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 01:38pm
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I prefer the direct approach with coaches I'm familiar with.

"If you yell across the court again, you will receive a technical foul."

Why would you use a phrase like, "it'll cost ya."?
Ok...the cynic in me says ...What if he yells across the court for a timeout... I know you'd not do that Rich....

I'm not gonna say "it'll cost ya" just not for me...
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 01:41pm
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colt -- thank you and good point. I guess I will work on adjusting my warning.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 01:44pm
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There is a difference between a player saying that he doesn't agree with a call... and saying that you are the reason they are losing. By saying that he is questioning your integrity and yes.. he should be T'd up for that immediatly without warning.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 03:56pm
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I prefer the direct approach with coaches I'm familiar with.

"If you yell across the court again, you will receive a technical foul."

Why would you use a phrase like, "it'll cost ya."?

Still too much.

Avoid phrases like that, it's too close to, "I don't want to hear another word coach!" Then the coach says, "Sorry, you are right." Now if you want to have any credibility you have to whack him for apologizing.

I'd use, "Coach I won't have you yelling comments across the floor." Simple, direct, dealing with the behavior with just an implied threat. The coach knows what is coming, but it isn't delivered in a confrontational way.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 04:17pm
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Discretion is the better part of valor...

2 point game and 4 minutes to go in 4th and a T?

How bout using your captains or coach and tell them to get the player under control before he has to be penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct?

T's need to make to keep game neutral or game better. I doubt that this one would do either one...
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 04:20pm
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I'm kind of shocked. I am not bashful with my Ts at all, but I don't think I would say some of the stuff that I've heard here. I have asked a coach to please stop yelling at me. That is about all I will say to the coach before he is T'd. I will do what Rut said and ask a player to repeat himself/herself if I'm not 100% sure. If I'm 100% sure, done deal. I did have a player tell me one time, "I'm talking to you!" He was done for the night about 1 minute later.
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