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Old Fri Jan 18, 2008, 01:35am
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In general it depends on too many things to give a cut and dry answer.

Things I'd consider are:

How he/she got the seat belt...was it a direct T, or was it an indirect?

Are they coaching or cheering or are they talking at me or my partner(s)?

If they hadn't gotten it because of their own unsporting behavior or if they are coaching/cheering, I'd do just what I do to a wandering coach out of their box, "Coach where are you at?"

That usually gets that look down, oh crap reaction, with quick compliance.
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Old Fri Jan 18, 2008, 06:18am
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In general it depends on too many things to give a cut and dry answer.

Things I'd consider are:

How he/she got the seat belt...was it a direct T, or was it an indirect?

Are they coaching or cheering or are they talking at me or my partner(s)?

If they hadn't gotten it because of their own unsporting behavior or if they are coaching/cheering, I'd do just what I do to a wandering coach out of their box, "Coach where are you at?"

That usually gets that look down, oh crap reaction, with quick compliance.
Are you serious? You'd let a seatbelted coach wander around?

Lah me.....

Who cares how the coach got seatbelted? The only thing that matters is that he DID get seatbelted. Enforce the rule without making up lame excuses why you don't have to.
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Old Sat Jan 19, 2008, 01:16pm
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Are you serious? You'd let a seat belted coach wander around?

Lah me.....

Who cares how the coach got seat belted? The only thing that matters is that he DID get seat belted. Enforce the rule without making up lame excuses why you don't have to.
Someone needs new reading glasses, just where did I say I'd let a seat belted coach wander around?

I said IF the coach hadn't directly earned the seatbelt because of his own actions...like a bone head player dunks in warm-ups...I'd give him a, "Hey coach, where you at?" Just like I'd give a wandering coach outside his box who is coaching.

Seriously if you are going to criticize at least get it right.
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Old Sat Jan 19, 2008, 01:55pm
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I said IF the coach hadn't directly earned the seatbelt because of his own actions...like a bone head player dunks in warm-ups...I'd give him a, "Hey coach, where you at?" Just like I'd give a wandering coach outside his box who is coaching.

Seriously if you are going to criticize at least get it right.
So, you'd let him wander if he indirectly earned the seatbelt? That's OK with you?

In that case.....

Are you serious? You'd let a seatbelted coach wander around?

Lah me.....

Who cares HOW the coach got seatbelted? The only thing that matters is that he DID get seatbelted. Enforce the rule without making up lame excuses why you don't have to.

Is that any plainer?
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Old Sat Jan 19, 2008, 02:03pm
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So, you'd let him wander if he indirectly earned the seatbelt? That's OK with you?

In that case.....

Are you serious? You'd let a seatbelted coach wander around?

Lah me.....

Who cares HOW the coach got seatbelted? The only thing that matters is that he DID get seatbelted. Enforce the rule without making up lame excuses why you don't have to.

Is that any plainer?
It's plain you can't ever admit when you are wrong.
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Old Sat Jan 19, 2008, 02:20pm
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Things I'd consider are:

How he/she got the seat belt...was it a direct T, or was it an indirect?

Are they coaching or cheering or are they talking at me or my partner(s)?

If they hadn't gotten it because of their own unsporting behavior or if they are coaching/cheering, I'd do just what I do to a wandering coach out of their box, "Coach where are you at?"
You tell me how I'm wrong, BZ. Those are your statements. A coach got seatbelted. You're trying to say that how the coach got the seatbelt should be a factor. You're also stating that you wouldn't nail a seatbelted coach for being up wandering around if that coach was coaching/cheering. Well, golly gee, I beg to differ with your philosophy.

A seatbelted coach is seatbelted. Period.
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Old Sat Jan 19, 2008, 07:29pm
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You tell me how I'm wrong, BZ. Those are your statements. A coach got seatbelted. You're trying to say that how the coach got the seatbelt should be a factor. You're also stating that you wouldn't nail a seatbelted coach for being up wandering around if that coach was coaching/cheering. Well, golly gee, I beg to differ with your philosophy.

A seatbelted coach is seatbelted. Period.
Standing yelling instructions is not wandering around.

Standing cheering a good play is not wandering around.

So please try to keep up.

If a coach is not causing an issue, I'm sure as hell am not going to be a plumber because they are "technically breaking the rules...not when a simple, "Hey coach," fixes the problem.

There's taking care of business and there's being an over-officious rule book ref...there's being a game manager and doing what's best for the game and that means TCB when it's unsporting and using common sense when it isn't.
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