When it's 66-27....

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Where's my good game? Huh?

I might have forgotten to mention that occasionally the karma bus not only runs you over, but then stops, backs up, and does it again.

Like Jeff pointed out, the good ones come when you least expect it. Just be ready for it.

[mj]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

...things happen. It was 41-6 at the half and the home team had one field goal the entire first half (a 3-pointer).

We had the winning team call a 30-second timeout essentially to sub. Other team was ready quickly.

Partner was the trail backcourt and didn't take the time to wait for me to give him the thumbs up. I didn't make a huge deal of it as I, too, wanted to get it going.

Coming up the floor, I heard some mumbling and quickly realized the losing team had six on the floor. Dammit. I whistle, we administer the technical.

Final is something like 77-30. At least we were in the car by 9PM.

Where's my good game? Huh?

Look on the bright side. At least it appears one team had some skills. It's when neither team isn't that I struggle...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mj

Look on the bright side. At least it appears one team had some skills. It's when neither team isn't that I struggle...

Tonight I had a 10 point game.

We had one of those moments in the fourth quarter, though. Ball shoots out on my sideline about midcourt (I'm the lead with players down low, so I'm on the baseline). I call it immediately. BTW, I got it right. The player himself told me he knocked it out later.

Losing coach starts in about how neither of us are in position to make that call and on top of that he had just been on my partner over a call he made (that I didn't see the play for since I was officiating off ball) on a shooting foul. I held up my partner from inbounding at half court, walked all the way down to his bench, and as non-aggressively as possible stood next to the coach and told him that the next time he did that (call across the court like that) he would be getting a technical foul.

His response? "It may happen."

My response? "Fine, if you want one, I'll give it to you, cause if it does happen again, you can be sure there will be a technical foul." Said slowly, with eye contact, knowing that I may have to live up to this.

I didn't like his response, but I wasn't going to bait him or make it look like I was the aggressor right at that moment. Guess what? He shut his trap

No kidding, no one is in position to see that. Hire three freaking officials instead of whining about it.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

...things happen. It was 41-6 at the half and the home team had one field goal the entire first half (a 3-pointer).

We had the winning team call a 30-second timeout essentially to sub. Other team was ready quickly.

Partner was the trail backcourt and didn't take the time to wait for me to give him the thumbs up. I didn't make a huge deal of it as I, too, wanted to get it going.

Coming up the floor, I heard some mumbling and quickly realized the losing team had six on the floor. Dammit. I whistle, we administer the technical.

Final is something like 77-30. At least we were in the car by 9PM.

Where's my good game? Huh?

1) The game is a blow-out.

2) Because the game is a blow-out. Suck it up and admit to the coaches that you and your partner made a big mistake by putting the ball in play before both you had done your due diligence (both of you counting players; and your partner for putting the ball into play without making eye contact with you) and that we are going to get the game restarted with only ten (five for each team) players on the court and you (as a team) will not make this mistake again.

3) Yes, HC-V is repsonsible for having six players on the court, but the officiating crew made a huge mechanics blunder in a game that is a blow-out. Therefore, a TF in this situation is a game interrupter.

MTD, Sr.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Therefore, a TF in this situation is a game interrupter.

Isn't a technical foul in ANY situation a game interrupter?

To be quite honest, I've never figured out how not to interrupt the game every single time I blow my whistle.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

1) The game is a blow-out.

2) Because the game is a blow-out. Suck it up and admit to the coaches that you and your partner made a big mistake by putting the ball in play before both you had done your due diligence (both of you counting players; and your partner for putting the ball into play without making eye contact with you) and that we are going to get the game restarted with only ten (five for each team) players on the court and you (as a team) will not make this mistake again.

3) Yes, HC-V is repsonsible for having six players on the court, but the officiating crew made a huge mechanics blunder in a game that is a blow-out. Therefore, a TF in this situation is a game interrupter.

MTD, Sr.

With all due respect, this is utter crap.

While I'll suck up and deal with the fact that we put the ball in play with 11 players on the floor (I beat myself up for about 10 seconds after the game), ultimately the TEAM is responsible for putting 5 players out there, not six.

Game interrupter? Both coaches and everyone in the building expected a technical foul and this is the only situation where we officials take on the blame when nobody (coaches, fans, etc.) actually thinks it's our fault. Weaseling out of the prescribed penalty and trying to make nice with everyone would be a much bigger game interrupter. As it was, we grabbed a shooter, she made the free throws, and we restarted the game.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

With all due respect, this is utter crap.

While I'll suck up and deal with the fact that we put the ball in play with 11 players on the floor (I beat myself up for about 10 seconds after the game), ultimately the TEAM is responsible for putting 5 players out there, not six.

Game interrupter? Both coaches and everyone in the building expected a technical foul and this is the only situation where we officials take on the blame when nobody (coaches, fans, etc.) actually thinks it's our fault. Weaseling out of the prescribed penalty and trying to make nice with everyone would be a much bigger game interrupter. As it was, we grabbed a shooter, she made the free throws, and we restarted the game.

Rich:

I agree that the HC has the ultimate responsibility to ensure that his team has only five players on the court BUT the game officials admitted that because the game was a blowout they did not do their job as officials before putting the ball into play.

When the ball is going to be put back into play after the clock has been stopped for some reason there is NO excuse for a team to have more that five players on the court when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower or free thrower unless that player decides to enter the court of his/her own volition. Just because the game is a blowout is NO excuse for the officials to get sloppy and lackadaisical because they want to get the game over quickly.

I have had TF’s for six players on the court, but NEVER (with apologies to the late J. Dallas Shirley) because I didn’t make sure that each team only had five players on the court before I or my partner(s) allowed the ball to be put back into play. If the non-administering official is not ready and his partner(s) put the ball into play, he should immediately sound his whistle and make sure everything is to his satisfaction. For an officiating crew to penalize a team because the officiating crew did not do its job because they just wanted the game to be over is unconscionable.

MTD, Sr.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Rich:

I agree that the HC has the ultimate responsibility to ensure that his team has only five players on the court BUT the game officials admitted that because the game was a blowout they did not do their job as officials before putting the ball into play.

When the ball is going to be put back into play after the clock has been stopped for some reason there is NO excuse for a team to have more that five players on the court when the ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower or free thrower unless that player decides to enter the court of his/her own volition. Just because the game is a blowout is NO excuse for the officials to get sloppy and lackadaisical because they want to get the game over quickly.

I have had TF’s for six players on the court, but NEVER (with apologies to the late J. Dallas Shirley) because I didn’t make sure that each team only had five players on the court before I or my partner(s) allowed the ball to be put back into play. If the non-administering official is not ready and his partner(s) put the ball into play, he should immediately sound his whistle and make sure everything is to his satisfaction. For an officiating crew to penalize a team because the officiating crew did not do its job because they just wanted the game to be over is unconscionable.

MTD, Sr.

Unconscionable? Lighten up, Francis.

It's too bad that a team can't count to five. While preventive officiating dictates we don't start with 6 on the floor, after a time out there simply is no excuse for the team to have too many players on the court.

I've already beaten myself up over this (10 seconds) as much as necessary. Off to get dressed for another game. Another boys game and I hope it's a good one as it would make 2 in a row.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

With all due respect, this is utter crap.

While I'll suck up and deal with the fact that we put the ball in play with 11 players on the floor (I beat myself up for about 10 seconds after the game), ultimately the TEAM is responsible for putting 5 players out there, not six.

Game interrupter? Both coaches and everyone in the building expected a technical foul and this is the only situation where we officials take on the blame when nobody (coaches, fans, etc.) actually thinks it's our fault. Weaseling out of the prescribed penalty and trying to make nice with everyone would be a much bigger game interrupter. As it was, we grabbed a shooter, she made the free throws, and we restarted the game.

With all due respect, I agree with everything that you said. Shiznit happens. And it happened because a coach didn't do his/her job.