2 of our very own!

BktBallRef · #1 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 29, 2007, 11:24pm

609 on DTV.

Ace, who's who?

OK, I've got bball_junkie pegged from his pictures on his family's website.

ace · #2 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 29, 2007, 11:36pm

bball_junkie (Brendan) (U1) is the tall lanky official.
Brad is the other tall guy (U2) .
The third (shorter) guy is Mel Whitworth. Mel's the one with the 'different' sounding whistle.

BktBallRef · #3 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 29, 2007, 11:53pm

Okay, a little critique.

Good foul selection.

Good coverage. Noticed Brad dropped for Brendan even though it was his call, in his area.

Good PC by Brendan with under a minute to go in the 2nd.

Do you guys use two hand reporting?

Counts are a little slow. That's easy to see with the clock at the bottom of the screen.

Correctly put .5 back on the clock at the end of the 2nd.

However, the timer didn't know how to reset the clock to tenths.

ace · #4 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 29, 2007, 11:56pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Okay, a little critique.

Good foul selection.

Good coverage. Noticed Brad dropped for Brendan even though it was his call. But they had good communication. -- These guys are best friends and have been refereeing together for atleast 8 years. You'd swear they were brothers becasue of how well they know each other.

Good PC by Brendan with under a minute to go in the 2nd.

Do you guys use two hand reporting? No

Counts are a little slow. That's easy to see with the clock at the bottom of the screen.

Correctly put .5 back on the clock at the end of the 2nd.

However, the timer didn't know how to reset the clock to tenths. Common problem around here. LOL, and everywhere I imagine.

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Scooby · #5 (**permalink**) Sun Dec 30, 2007, 12:03am

Congrats guys.

BktBallRef · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Dec 30, 2007, 12:07am

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Originally Posted by ace

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Do you guys use two hand reporting? No

Mel reported a foul with both hands late in the 2nd quarter.

BktBallRef · #7 (**permalink**) Sun Dec 30, 2007, 12:30am

2nd half

The big guy for Oak Hill can jump!

Ok, nothing bad, I'm just curious. We never bounce the ball across the lane on a throw-in. We always rotate to that side of the floor and administer the throw-in. What do other areas do?

The big guy can run, too.

Brendan with the T!

I saw him woofing at Brad earlier that he was hit on the arm. Good call to shut the prima dona up!!!

tomegun · #8 (**permalink**) Sun Dec 30, 2007, 12:33am

We try to move to the side of the lane. Bouncing across is a Women's college mechanic. I don't have anything against the Women's game, it just isn't a NFHS mechanic.

Brad · #9 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 31, 2007, 03:13am

Ok, nothing bad, I'm just curious. We never bounce the ball across the lane on a throw-in. We always rotate to that side of the floor and administer the throw-in. What do other areas do?

We bounce across the lane in the backcourt only... Not always, but if the other two refs head down the court we will just bounce across instead of rotating.

Brendan with the T!

I saw him woofing at Brad earlier that he was hit on the arm. Good call to shut the prima dona up!!!

LOL -- yeah, you saw that?! At the next free throw he was not lined up on the lane, but standing near Brendan at trail... I was at lead and moved into the lane, got his attention and said, "If you do that to me again I am going to light you up real quick!" and Brendan gave him a few words of advice (If I recall correctly telling him not to embarrass us).

A few plays later he... how should we say this... emphatically told Brendan that he was fouled. I think Padgett is the one the says he used a word that started with "f" and ended with "uck" and was not "firetruck"...

Nice job Brendan -- whacking the #1 rated player in the nation!!!

Seriously, that kid is a great player... and THANK YOU commentators for pointing out that you do not get a lot of players receiving techs when their team is up by 24! LOL

Brad · #10 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 31, 2007, 03:07am

Good foul selection.

Thanks

Good coverage. Noticed Brad dropped for Brendan even though it was his call, in his area.

Don't remember this specifically -- do you remember the time in the game? (I'm sure you took COPIOUS notes!!! LOL)

Good PC by Brendan with under a minute to go in the 2nd.

This was the "hook" call, right? I had a whistle on this too from trail and the Oak Hill coach (and his assistants) complained about it! Very easy call we thought!!

Do you guys use two hand reporting?

No.

Counts are a little slow. That's easy to see with the clock at the bottom of the screen.

Yeah -- mine tend to be... I always use the clock for my 10-second count anyway... but for 5-seconds I am just slow (but always consistent of course!

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Correctly put .5 back on the clock at the end of the 2nd.

However, the timer didn't know how to reset the clock to tenths.

If we had known how much time it was going to take to handle this we never would have done it! Normally you just tell the time to put time back on and they put it back on... This took FOREVER!!!

However, as you pointed out, it was the right call... I was opposite and had the clock and thought we needed to put time back on -- Brendan came in from table side and said the same thing. Since the offensive team had the ball underneath their own basket, it make even more sense to put the time back on.

Then the horn DOESN'T go off to end the half, even though it did the first time... And the 3-pointer that Madison launched after we put time back on WOULD have been good, because I look at the clock after he shot the ball and there was still time running down... I'm sure that would have been *interesting* so I am glad it didn't happen!

Nevadaref · #11 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 31, 2007, 03:15am

Brad,
Could you please expound on the decision to wear the grey shirts? My association is having a little issue with this at the moment.

Specifically, could you state: who sanctioned the event, who was the assignor, who made the decision on the shirts, what other options were available or considered, what impact, if any, it had on the TX associations to which any of you belong or from the state office.

Thanks.
PS If you don't feel comfortable posting any of that info just say so. I would like as much as possible though. It would be greatly appreciated.

Brad · #12 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 31, 2007, 03:21am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Brad,
Could you please expound on the decision to wear the grey shirts? My association is having a little issue with this at the moment.

Specifically, could you state: who sanctioned the event, who was the assignor, who made the decision on the shirts, what other options were available or considered, what impact, if any, it had on the TX associations to which any of you belong or from the state office.

Thanks.
PS If you don't feel comfortable posting any of that info just say so. I would like as much as possible though. It would be greatly appreciated.

Not sure who sanctioned the event... The UIL governs high school athletics in Texas, so somehow they did I assume. However, in Texas we have a separate officials association, which is different than most states.

The assignor is a local Houston official and when he started assigning this tournament years back (about 6 years ago I think) he decided to use the grey shirts... Basically it is his show, so he can do whatever he wants.

I don't really have a strong opinion on them... I think that they look good, but don't mind our regular black and white either...

Nevadaref · #13 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 31, 2007, 08:15am

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Originally Posted by Brad

Not sure who sanctioned the event... The UIL governs high school athletics in Texas, so somehow they did I assume. However, in Texas we have a separate officials association, which is different than most states.

The assignor is a local Houston official and when he started assigning this tournament years back (about 6 years ago I think) he decided to use the grey shirts... Basically it is his show, so he can do whatever he wants.

I don't really have a strong opinion on them... I think that they look good, but don't mind our regular black and white either...

Thanks, Brad.
My state office has contacted the NFHS and they explicitly said NO to the greys.
We have a rep on the rules committee right now and so we follow the particulars. We don't wish to jeopardize his position.

I wonder if any group/state wearing the greys loses their representation/vote/rule change submission rights with the NFHS.

RookieDude · #14 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 31, 2007, 04:15am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Brad,
Could you please expound on the decision to wear the grey shirts? My association is having a little issue with this at the moment.

Specifically, could you state: who sanctioned the event, who was the assignor, who made the decision on the shirts, what other options were available or considered, what impact, if any, it had on the TX associations to which any of you belong or from the state office.

Thanks.
PS If you don't feel comfortable posting any of that info just say so. I would like as much as possible though. It would be greatly appreciated.

We have kind of a unique situation, regarding gray/stripe shirts, in our Association, I think.

Our State Tournaments have been using grays for a few years now.
But, our association has been using the good ol' black and whites(Unless we went to the State Tournament)...until this year. We decided to go with the grays as the "default" shirt. In other words, the new guys would go ahead and buy grays and not worry about buying black and white. If we were going to officiate with a newer official, then the veteran officials would have to also have a gray shirt.

Where we are different, I believe, is that we can decide...as a crew...what color shirts we will wear. I have found that most of the Varsity guys are going with Black/White shirts. But, if just one individual wants to go with gray...then the whole crew must.

We usually tell our partners what color shirt to bring to the game when we make our e-mails/phone calls confirming our assignment. I bring both...just in case.

BktBallRef · #15 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 31, 2007, 05:15pm

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Originally Posted by Brad

Good coverage. Noticed Brad dropped for Brendan even though it was his call, in his area.

Don't remember this specifically -- do you remember the time in the game? (I'm sure you took COPIOUS notes!!! LOL)

Late 2nd quarter. There was a rebound and a putback on your side between the block and the glass.. Brendan was C, opposite. Two whistles, you dropped, definitely your call, no biggie. If I'm C, I let you have it so I can stay in the rocking chair.

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Good PC by Brendan with under a minute to go in the 2nd.

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This was the "hook" call, right? I had a whistle on this too from trail and the Oak Hill coach (and his assistants) complained about it! Very easy call we thought!!

Yes, it was a hook, which are normally not visible to anyone behind the play, as the Oak Hill bench would have been

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Do you guys use two hand reporting?

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No.

Noticed it once from Mel.

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Correctly put .5 back on the clock at the end of the 2nd.

However, the timer didn't know how to reset the clock to tenths.

If we had known how much time it was going to take to handle this we never would have done it! Normally you just tell the time to put time back on and they put it back on... This took FOREVER!!!

However, as you pointed out, it was the right call... I was opposite and had the clock and thought we needed to put time back on -- Brendan came in from table side and said the same thing. Since the offensive team had the ball underneath their own basket, it make even more sense to put the time back on.

Then the horn DOESN'T go off to end the half, even though it did the first time... And the 3-pointer that Madison launched after we put time back on WOULD have been good, because I look at the clock after he shot the ball and there was still time running down... I'm sure that would have been *interesting* so I am glad it didn't happen!

Yep, I remember your whistle and no horn.

Most clocks, you would enter 0-0-0-5 for .5.

I enjoyed watching, even though it wasn't much of a game.