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Ralph Tue Dec 25, 2007 06:54pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
News flash from Fox television network:

The title of the quiz show, "Are You Smarter Than Billy Packer?", originally named "Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader?" has now officially been changed to "Are You Smarter Than Ralph?" We expect everyone will win, even unborn children and vegetables.

Bet you don't call NINE technicals again. Bet when this team takes the court again you won't even call TWO. You have learned whether you want to admit it or not.

Ralph Tue Dec 25, 2007 06:57pm

[QUOTE=Jurassic Referee]My partner and I called eleven(11) on a head coach once. He had 6 and I had 5. Of course you did. from all the posts I have seen from you there is nothing you haven't accomplished - I guess you and Mr. Hightower are tight!


At that time there was no limit on the number of T's that a coach/player could receive. That coach had a terrible team, and he <b>wanted</b> to get tossed. We told him that if we had to suffer watching his crappy team, then so would he.

The point is that you don't <b>IGNORE</b> righteous technical fouls when they occur. Let me change that wording.....<b>we</b> don't ignore righteous technical fouls when they occur. <b>You</b> obviously do. Yes, I use judgment - what is good for a HS V game is not necessarily the same call for a 12 year old rec game. if you disagree with that then you are an idiot and need to actually ref a game or two instead of quoting the rulebook.[/QUOTE]

Buh Bye.

Ralph Tue Dec 25, 2007 07:00pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad
Again, the world wasn't against the Wright Brothers, but why let small facts stand in the way of making your lam point??

Wasn't it Ralph himself who said (earlier in this thread) "Why post if you can't handle different viewpoints?" If Ralph wants to blast away at someone, shouldn't little Ralphie expect to get some blasting back??

And I think Ralph is confused - he was 11 when he finally got out of the SECOND grade, not seventh.:p

When the world said man would never fly I guess that wasn't the world against the Wright brothers.. Idiot.

I love give and take - I can handle it - OP can't. I just do not like blind loyalty. This site should be called lemming.com

Mark Padgett Tue Dec 25, 2007 07:02pm

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Originally Posted by Ralph
Bet you don't call NINE technicals again. Bet when this team takes the court again you won't even call TWO. You have learned whether you want to admit it or not.

Bet I call as many as they commit. It could be nine, it could be two, it could be zero. And what I have learned is the value of your opinion. In fact, there's even a mechanic for it -

http://blogs.nypost.com/40by40/zero.0.jpg

Jurassic Referee Tue Dec 25, 2007 07:09pm

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Originally Posted by Ralph
I love give and take - I can handle it - OP can't. I just do not like blind loyalty. This site should be called lemming.com

Yup. It's kinda amazing that <b>all</b> of the lemmings disagree with you too.

Go away, troll. This site is for real officials. you obviously can't pass the physical.

Rich Tue Dec 25, 2007 07:12pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Yup. It's kinda amazing that <b>all</b> of the lemmings disagree with you too.

Go away, troll. This site is for real officials. you obviously can't pass the physical.

Be careful, he'll post his resume again. Remember to genuflect.

Jurassic Referee Tue Dec 25, 2007 07:23pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN
Be careful, he'll post his resume again. Remember to genuflect.

Old School used to post his resume all the time too...including his D1 games.

"Nuff said.:D

bob jenkins Tue Dec 25, 2007 07:53pm

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Originally Posted by Ralph
Wow.

Sorry, Ralph, your "logic" doesn't fly.

According to the OP, about 1/2 of the Ts were for interfering with the ball after a basket and the other 1/2 were for breaking the plane. (one was 5 and the other was 4). I'm "sure" Mark didn't call a T everytime the ball was just touched after going through the basket -- he knows the rule. There's no way to "warn" against this infraction each time it's about to happen. Likewise, I'm sure he (and his partner) didn't call the T for just "barely" breaking the plane. And, I'm "sure" he called every egregious travelling and carry. (okay, I'm less sure on this one, because calls get missed.)

IOW, s*** happens -- and it happened in this game.

Mark Padgett Tue Dec 25, 2007 08:09pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
Sorry, Ralph, your "logic" doesn't fly.

According to the OP, about 1/2 of the Ts were for interfering with the ball after a basket and the other 1/2 were for breaking the plane. (one was 5 and the other was 4). I'm "sure" Mark didn't call a T everytime the ball was just touched after going through the basket -- he knows the rule. There's no way to "warn" against this infraction each time it's about to happen. Likewise, I'm sure he (and his partner) didn't call the T for just "barely" breaking the plane. And, I'm "sure" he called every egregious travelling and carry. (okay, I'm less sure on this one, because calls get missed.)

IOW, s*** happens -- and it happened in this game.

You're absolutely correct, Bob. Sometimes they batted the ball away, sometimes they caught it, held it and even walked a few steps with it. In fact, one time one of them held the ball and pulled it away from the kid on the other team as he tried to take it so he could go and inbound!

As far as breaking the plane, they waved their hands way over the line even thought the inbounder was far enough back that they couldn't come close to touching the ball and twice, they even tried to reach over and "face guard" the inbounder! They also jumped over the line once and I mean really jumped.

The weird thing was, on offense, they committed very few turnovers. They had a point guard that was an excellent ball handler and he pretty much ran their offense the entire game.

Unfortunately, they needed to have the wax cleaned out of their ears. They just never listened and they certainly didn't learn. After a few calls, even their own parents were yelling at them. :(

Oh yeah - we got zero flak from coaches and/or parents. After the game, the two coaches shook hands. The other coach said to this team's coach, "Whatever was going on with your guys today?" He responded, "I have no idea, but I'm going to find out at our next practice and stop it."

rockyroad Tue Dec 25, 2007 08:34pm

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Originally Posted by Ralph
When the world said man would never fly I guess that wasn't the world against the Wright brothers.. Idiot.

Well you got at least one thing right. There is an idiot here, but it isn't me...the "world" wasn't against the Wrights. There were some people who said it would never work and that they were crazy to keep trying. But there were also people who supported the Wrights and encouraged them to keep at it...so there's one "doom-sayer" in this thread and a bunch of encouragers...you are without a doubt the complete idiot here, and posting your supposed resume really doesn't impress anyone. There are many here (including in this thread) who have done more State tournaments, State Championship games, and more higher level things than you have. So you disagreed with the way Padgett handled the situation, no one has a problem with that. But to just start blasting away and tell him he screwed up the game - well, like I said before, you deserve whatever you get. Moron.

Mark Padgett Tue Dec 25, 2007 08:56pm

It's out of the bag
 
Happy Days! I found a picture of Ralph. This explains everything.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/ralphopening.jpg

rainmaker Tue Dec 25, 2007 09:44pm

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Originally Posted by Ralph
Bet you don't call NINE technicals again. Bet when this team takes the court again you won't even call TWO. You have learned whether you want to admit it or not.

Either that or the kids will learn. Whether you want to admit it or not!

Adam Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:12pm

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Originally Posted by Ralph
NINE technicals plus one warning = 10 opportunities to NOT call a T. He gave up or tried to prove he was the master of the court.

Seriously? "Opportunities to not call a T?" That's how you see unsporting behavior? There's a word for that, but Juulie won't let me use it.

Ralph Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:26pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Yup. It's kinda amazing that <b>all</b> of the lemmings disagree with you too. UHH - the definition of lemming....

Go away, troll. This site is for real officials. you obviously can't pass the physical.

Real bad officials...if your support for this over-the-top action in a REC game of 11-12 year olds is any indication.

Ralph Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:29pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Seriously? "Opportunities to not call a T?" That's how you see unsporting behavior? There's a word for that, but Juulie won't let me use it.


Oooh, unsporting behavior from 11-12 year old REC kids who don't have the talent to play competitive ball. Real eggregious.


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