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Old Wed Dec 19, 2007, 03:26pm
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is this link correct? (www.mshsl.org) does not work for me
The link to the mshsl site won't do you any good unless you are a state certified official. You would need to be able to login to the officials corner, and in that page there is a link to a powerpoint presentation on how to call the game "by the rules."

The main points of emphasis are no armbars, and no hands allowed. If you have your forearm away from your body, and make contact with your opponent, it's an automatic foul (offensive or defensive). For hands, it's called touch and play. You can use your hand to "find" your opponent, then they must come off. Hands on the opponent after the initial touch is automatic foul.

I've called a few games this year, and the kids pick up on how you call it fairly quickly (most of the time). I talked with an official that called a game with as many as 68 fouls, and one with only 4 total fouls on one team.

So, if the coach can teach his kids to play proper defense, his team will be fine.
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Old Wed Dec 19, 2007, 04:26pm
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I've called a few games this year, and the kids pick up on how you call it fairly quickly (most of the time).
And it's been that way forever. The players and coaches will adjust to the officials, IF the officials are consistent. If we tighten up, they'll adjust to us.
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Old Wed Dec 19, 2007, 04:38pm
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Maybe this link will work...

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/sofficial...8/player2.html
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Old Wed Dec 19, 2007, 05:45pm
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And it's been that way forever. The players and coaches will adjust to the officials, IF the officials are consistent. If we tighten up, they'll adjust to us.
Who the hell WANTS to tighten up? Advantage/disadvantage is the way the game's been played forever. It's a contact sport. Those that deny that are foolish.

Minnesota wants to turn the sport into the equivalent of no-check hockey. Wonderful in theory, horribly boring in practice.

Edited to add: I've watched the video. Overboard, IMO, but nobody's asking me and I don't live there. Sounds like women's college "guidelines" are creeping into the NFHS game.

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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 10:03am
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And it's been that way forever. The players and coaches will adjust to the officials, IF the officials are consistent. If we tighten up, they'll adjust to us.
I agree. Not always but I have found you might reach the bonus or double bonus on both teams in the first half. Second half starts and you're expecting the same and the fouls diminish significantly. Both teams adjusted to how the game is being called.
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Old Thu Dec 20, 2007, 10:35am
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I agree. Not always but I have found you might reach the bonus or double bonus on both teams in the first half. Second half starts and you're expecting the same and the fouls diminish significantly. Both teams adjusted to how the game is being called.
I have found this to be true alot of times.

About 25% of the time I find coaches will continue to counsel their players to continue playing "aggresive defense" , almost like to see if we,the officials, are willing to keep calling it. I am and I do.

Nothing like a long Frosh game to put everyone in a good frame of mind.
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