Minnesota to Enforce Rules

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by mj

"Carnac says, "2 1/2 hour games and double bonus by the end of the third quarter"...

"What is a high school basketball game in Minnesota..."

Your point would be....

[mj]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Your point would be....

My point is that if you call it as they say in the video you're in for a long game...

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by mj

My point is that if you call it as they say in the video you're in for a long game...

Okay, so why is that a response to what I said about coaches not wanting it called on their own players? I'm not disagreeing with you, just trying to understand the flow of the conversation...

[mj]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Okay, so why is that a response to what I said about coaches not wanting it called on their own players? I'm not disagreeing with you, just trying to understand the flow of the conversation...

Fixed it to not include your post...my apologies.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by mj

Fixed it to not include your post...my apologies.

No reason to apologize. It's just easy enough to confuse me already. I don't need help!!

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by mj

"Carnac says, "2 1/2 hour games and double bonus by the end of the third quarter"...

"What is a high school basketball game in Minnesota..."

Especially since I believe someone recently posted that Minn. plays 18-minute halves. So you've got 2 extra minutes each half for the bonus.

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And it's been that way forever. The players and coaches will adjust to the officials, IF the officials are consistent. If we tighten up, they'll adjust to us.

I agree. Not always but I have found you might reach the bonus or double bonus on both teams in the first half. Second half starts and you're expecting the same and the fouls diminish significantly. Both teams adjusted to how the game is being called.

[Red_Killian]

I'm an official in MN and adjusting to the new guidelines and believe me it is an adjustment. Many officials in my area were using A/D and doing a good job. As RichMSN states it is a lot like Women's basketball 4-5 years ago where certain acts were supposed to ALWAYS be called fouls regardless of any A/D. Displace and impede are the new buzzwords.

Some teams are adjusting real well, you can tell their coaches have been working on it BEFORE the season started. Other teams/coaches appear clueless and they get called for a lot more fouls.

Yes, we play 18 min halves, yes the new guidelines have typically resulted in more fouls per game ranging from a couple to a lot. Yes, we shoot a lot of free throws most games due to these 2 reasons. As with any change there is an adjustment period. It will be interesting to see how the teams/players adjust as the season progresses.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

I agree. Not always but I have found you might reach the bonus or double bonus on both teams in the first half. Second half starts and you're expecting the same and the fouls diminish significantly. Both teams adjusted to how the game is being called.

I have found this to be true alot of times.

About 25% of the time I find coaches will continue to counsel their players to continue playing "aggresive defense" , almost like to see if we,the officials, are willing to keep calling it. I am and I do.

Nothing like a long Frosh game to put everyone in a good frame of mind.