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AT&T to the rescue!!!
Just a little vent...
BV game, I'm trail, opposite table. Home A1 dribbles into a trap just over the division line about 10 off the sideline. Visiting B1 and B2 doing a great job with the trap when B1 swats at the ball AND gets the ball knocking it out of A1's hands. A1, having quick hands recovers the ball very quickly....just inches out of his hands.....never hitting the floor. A1, presumably being an intelligent player, knows he can now dribble again and does so to escape the trap. He splits the defenders and about 2-3 steps later with B's fans screaming, there is a whistle from the baseline.....illegal dribble. I look up in shock at my partner...wondering what he was thinking. He had both B1 and B2 blocking his view of the interior of the trap and couldn't possibly have seen the play. We come together to talk about it and I inform him that the defender knocked the ball out of A1's hands and that A1 got a new dribble as a result. He says that "since the ball didn't hit the floor, A1 can't dribble again". I informed him that there is no such requirement but he insists on sticking with his call...making me look like an idiot (for missing a double dribble right in front of me) and he gets the rule wrong at the same time!!! Even if I HAD missed an illegal dribble in that situation, there is no way he should have come in with that call. This really ticked me off since he made the call from ~50ft away AND didn't know the rule either.
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I would like to know what happened after the game, at halftime or whenever this play was discussed. Something like this would make my conversation be very direct. Hopefully, your partner apologized at the first opportunity. Otherwise I would directly address why he is calling out of his area so far. I would also discuss the rule that he blew.
Try to use the following to explain it to him: What if B1 knocked the ball twenty feet in the air, twenty feet away from the original play and A1 somehow got to the ball before it hit the ground? Or, what if B1 hit the ball, the ball comes loose, B1 touches it again and then A1 secures it before the ball touches the ground? The dribble ends when the ball touches or is touched by an opponent and cases the dribbler to lose control. A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of: art 2...a touch by an opponent. Hit him with that right quick.
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At this point it would be really hard for me to not tell him that I got this one, just trust me pard then blow the whistle declare an inadvertent whistle and give the ball back to A.
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Just stand out there at midcourt, blow the whistle a couple of times and wave your hands, then loudly announce that the defender knocked the ball loose and that it is still white's ball. Then administer the throw-in right there. |
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And as much as we all joke about what we would do, your partner really blew it in this case and his refusal to back down only made things worse. You handled it as best you could by letting the play go as called rather than getting into an argument with him at midcourt...that said, as others have said there would be some fireworks at halftime! |
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Tough one Cam...
My first reaction was why in the heck was he, as lead, watching the trap at the division line....and who was watching the other seven players? Yeah, it happens occasionally at lower levels with newer officials, but it's definitely not something I'd expect to see at a BV game. You were 100% right and your partner blew it big time IMHO. He must have either missed the rules meeting...or slept through it. I know the commissioner covered it, as it was one of this year's rules revisions(4-15-4d, 9-5-2). The ball doesn't even have to be intentionally batted by the oponent - only requirement is that control was lost by ball contacting the opponent......and there's nothing in there about it hitting the floor either.
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