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Old Thu Dec 13, 2007, 06:52pm
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Youngest D-1 Officials

For all you veterans:

I was wondering what some of the youngest D-1 officials are. I have seen on tv recently some guys working some Atlantic 10 who seem to be quite a bit younger than their partners? Anyone know of some young guys out there making it to the big time pretty quick?
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2007, 07:01pm
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I hear Bhuck Elics is only 16. But, I'm sure that's just a rumor.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2007, 07:04pm
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I'm not sure. There is one guy who is relatively young named Jose Calderon (I think). I was at the ACC camp with him a few years ago and he is the truth!
Unfortunately, there are many young guys in D1 that don't make it on ESPN and CBS.
One of the best stories I've heard was when Zack Zarba told me he made it to D1 then the NBA by 28 or 29. That is pretty good.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2007, 07:16pm
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I have a friend who was 24 or 25 when he got his 1st D1 assignement. He is now about 30 and works in 5 D1 leagues and the D-League.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2007, 10:07pm
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I'm not sure. There is one guy who is relatively young named Jose Calderon (I think). I was at the ACC camp with him a few years ago and he is the truth!
Unfortunately, there are many young guys in D1 that don't make it on ESPN and CBS.
One of the best stories I've heard was when Zack Zarba told me he made it to D1 then the NBA by 28 or 29. That is pretty good.
It's Jose Carrion I believe. He works the Big East among others. He is in his early 30s. He's originally from Puerto Rico.
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Old Thu Dec 13, 2007, 11:08pm
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It's Jose Carrion I believe. He works the Big East among others. He is in his early 30s. He's originally from Puerto Rico.
Yes, that is exactly who I'm talking about. I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's in every major D1 conference on the east coast.
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Old Fri Dec 14, 2007, 12:46am
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A friend of mine got picked up for a D-1 men's conference this year. He's 28 years old and has been officiating HS basketball for 5 years. That's the quickest ascension around here that I've ever seen.

He's very good and he also looks like the classic basketball official. Perfect height and build and extremely athletic. He just "has it."
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The reason I was wondering was the fact that I am starting my third year of officiating in the high school level and recently was hired by a NAIA D2 conference at the age of 20. Wondering what a realistic number was for me until I got to that D1 level?
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I've worked several times with Jose at the D3 level. He's an excellent official. I've camped with him at NunnBetter, as well. He's obviously very good, and helpful without needing to be "the man". I also got to know Zach a little bit through my time in the USBL. He is an excellent official and a really nice person. He spent literally 2 hours with me, standing on the sidelines during my USBL tryout and talking about NBA rules with me. After I got picked up (and then let go) by the USBL, we corresponded a little bit via email and he was always helpful when I needed help with something. (In fact, he got me invited to NunnBetter.) Two quality guys.

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The reason I was wondering was the fact that I am starting my third year of officiating in the high school level and recently was hired by a NAIA D2 conference at the age of 20. Wondering what a realistic number was for me until I got to that D1 level?
MO, here's my little piece of advice, for whatever it's worth. Don't put a number on it. Just do the things you need to do. I was 40 when I got picked up for D1 games. Hopefully, you don't have to wait that long. But if you put a number on it and then don't make it by then, you just set yourself up for disappointment.

Just go to the right camps, impress the right people and let things happen at their own pace. You can't control the decisions of the assignors, anyway. I went through a lot of frustration and disappointment, which I just brought on myself. Do what got you this far. Keep learning. If you've got the goods, someone will notice. Good luck.
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While shoveling the rest of the snow in my driveway, I realized that I forgot to mention this piece of "wisdom" that I heard a lot at camp: Better to make it a couple years late than a couple years early.

If you make it too soon and screw it up, you're done. Make sure you are really ready.
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Thank you Chuck.

Great Advise. A lot of guys around my area are intemidated to say something to me or talk to me about things because I am so young. I appreciate what you said.
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I had no idea you were such a youngster. I got you by three years. Oh yeah - I still have all my hair. Almost all, anyway.



BTW - don't say you're bald, say you have solar panels on your head.
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Old Fri Dec 14, 2007, 01:24pm
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The reason I was wondering was the fact that I am starting my third year of officiating in the high school level and recently was hired by a NAIA D2 conference at the age of 20. Wondering what a realistic number was for me until I got to that D1 level?

that's great to hear MO! Keep it up. Like the guys before me said, try not to put a timetable on it, but you do want to have goals so set them, if you don't reach them then of course you will be upset but don't analyze it the wrong way. Don't say, "I can't believe they didn't take me" instead ask yourself what you think you need to improve on. Watch tape and be your own hardest critic. Get down to the minute details if you think you have the solid foundation that is required to referee at a top level.

Like right now, I have been working on a couple of things this year. I tend to stand with my right shoulder lower than my left and it looks weird. I also am working on my slot positioning (which is horrible right now) and the cadence of my whistles. All minute little details, but something that will help my overall game in my later years. You should always be trying to develop the whole package.

Good luck to you MO and keep working hard as I am sure you have been.
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