Hammered!! - Page 2

texaspaul · #16 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 13, 2007, 04:23pm

You know, I remember my first meeting. The President of the chapter told the lot of us Newbies. If you don't make one call right, during your first night out, make sure you know your mechanics. The calls will come. It's a lot different looking at the game from an officials perspective. Don't let it get you down.

My worst call as a newbie. Freshman boys game. I'm lead, under the basket and a 3 point shot is up and I thought it went in. The defense grabbed it and started up the court. I blew the whistle and called a violation for not inbounding the ball. I think every person in the gym fell silent and looked at me. My co-official came over and told me, the basket didn't go in. Talk about wanting to catch a plane....

rockyroad · #17 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 13, 2007, 04:30pm

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Originally Posted by rngrck

Worked with varsity officials for the first time the other nite and didn't go well. These guys intimated the heck out of me and never felt comfortable and as a result, had my worst outing in my brief 3 week career. I'm still working on my mechanics and they had very little patience with me and unfortunately let it affect my performance. All I wanted to do was run out of the gym and hide. Funny thing though, after the games, I got some compliments from the players which made me somewhat feel better.
Any of you rookies experienced this?

While I'm not a rookie, I do feel your pain...sounds like you got stuck with a couple of guys with that proverbial 2x4 where the sun don't shine. Advice: forget about it and move on to your next game. If you get in to a similiar situation again, have the courage to walk up to your partner(s) during a time-out and tell them "I'm really struggling with my rotations and mechanics tonight. Could you help me out some?" and then see how it goes from there...most people (most, not all unfortunately) will be glad to help you out with those things and give you little reminders and hints as you go along. If not, call your game anyway and worry about mechanics and things like that later. Get the calls right.

TheOracle · #18 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 13, 2007, 05:28pm

You probably did fine. You need to always act like you belong. Rockyroad is correct, just focus on your area and work on your judgment when you hit the floor with those guys. If they choose not support you and help you get better, chances are you will surpass them sooner than they--or you--think.

Nevadaref · #19 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 14, 2007, 04:06am

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

You mean Edgar?

MTD, Sr.

He's put his foot in my backside a time or two.

MidMadness · #20 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 14, 2007, 11:07am

Getting older now, gets pissed very easy...But I learned alot..I also learned to save my questions for after class...LOL

kblehman · #21 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 14, 2007, 12:02pm

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Originally Posted by rngrck

Worked with varsity officials for the first time the other nite and didn't go well. These guys intimated the heck out of me and never felt comfortable and as a result, had my worst outing in my brief 3 week career. I'm still working on my mechanics and they had very little patience with me and unfortunately let it affect my performance. All I wanted to do was run out of the gym and hide. Funny thing though, after the games, I got some compliments from the players which made me somewhat feel better.
Any of you rookies experienced this?

I don't think I've experienced anything that bad, but I understand what you're referring to.

When I work with an official who I know is a veteran I get a little intimidated, especially if he's not very personable. Worse, I tend to defer to the veteran for fear of blowing a call in front him, or having him wonder why I made a certain call.

OTOH, when I work with a guy I know is either new or has less experience than me, I usually have my best games. I don't seem to be as hesitant or as likely to second guess what I just called. It's almost like I take over and lead in those situations, and I end up calling a very confident game.

I dunno, maybe that's strange. Anyone else relate to this phenomenon?

rngrck · #22 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 14, 2007, 05:27pm

Thats exactly what happened last nite to me!! I worked with a guy more or less in my range and I had my best game yet. I guess you could chaulk up this whole experience due to the lack of experience. But lets not deny, they're are alot of cocky refs out there especially the ones who have the same partner for years.

kblehman · #23 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 15, 2007, 04:44pm

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Originally Posted by rngrck

Thats exactly what happened last nite to me!! I worked with a guy more or less in my range and I had my best game yet. I guess you could chaulk up this whole experience due to the lack of experience. But lets not deny, they're are alot of cocky refs out there especially the ones who have the same partner for years.

I've found that 98% of veterans are more than happy to help rookies get better, but those other 2% sure do come across as pompous jerks.

MCJB Ump · #24 (**permalink**) Sun Dec 16, 2007, 12:36pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30

If I read your post correctly, I don't think he said the other officials showed him up, it was more of his perception of being intimidated.

That's how I read it too.

caliref · #25 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 17, 2007, 01:28am

Just remember....you cannot teach an official judgement, but you can teach an official mechanics.

bob jenkins · #26 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 17, 2007, 09:23am

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Originally Posted by caliref

Just remember....you cannot teach an official judgement, but you can teach an official mechanics.

Agreed. But, if you put the official in the "right" spot and have the official look at the "right" things, his/her judgment will improve right away.

Back In The Saddle · #27 (**permalink**) Mon Dec 17, 2007, 02:38pm

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Originally Posted by kblehman

I don't think I've experienced anything that bad, but I understand what you're referring to.

When I work with an official who I know is a veteran I get a little intimidated, especially if he's not very personable. Worse, I tend to defer to the veteran for fear of blowing a call in front him, or having him wonder why I made a certain call.

OTOH, when I work with a guy I know is either new or has less experience than me, I usually have my best games. I don't seem to be as hesitant or as likely to second guess what I just called. It's almost like I take over and lead in those situations, and I end up calling a very confident game.

I dunno, maybe that's strange. Anyone else relate to this phenomenon?

Yep, I can relate. I step up a lot more if I'm working with somebody newer than me. I have a tendency to lay back just a little bit if I'm working with a vet. It's something I'm working on. I'm comfortable being the stronger official; I'm not as comfortable being the weaker one.