Doh!

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

While this is true there is no rule that depends on FC or BC status without team control that I can think of. In the OP's play FC/BC status is irrelevant. Do you agree...or is there some 3rd world case where it might apply that you can think of?

Can't think of one.

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

btw...4-13 just defines FC/BC, it doesn't tell you how FC/BC status is defined. The rule you'll need for ball status is actually 4-4.

That's exactly what I said. I even cited 4-4 after talking about ball status.
You may need another cup of coffee this morning.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That's exactly what I said. I even cited 4-4 after talking about ball status.
You may need another cup of coffee this morning.

Nah, almost noon. Too late for more coffee. Time for a beer.