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Nevadaref Thu Dec 06, 2007 08:52am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins

5) You're entitled to your opinion.

Evidently, I'm not allowed to express it though. If you deleted my last two responses, that bullsh!t.

Rut can sling insults at me and I can't respond? :mad:

The first post contained three serious questions for BITS, now deleting that one wasn't right at all.

bob jenkins Thu Dec 06, 2007 08:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Evidently, I'm not allowed to express it though. If you deleted my last two responses, that bullsh!t.

Rut can sling insults at me and I can't respond? :mad:

The first post contained three serious questions for BITS, now deleting that one wasn't right at all.


1) I also delete his posts when required.

2) If your post only contained the three questions, it wouldn't have been deleted.

Nevadaref Thu Dec 06, 2007 09:05am

Well since you just went back and deleted his last post, I now have to consider it just, but when I wrote that you had only deleted mine. That upset me.

Nevadaref Thu Dec 06, 2007 09:10am

3 questions for BITS:
1. Are the camps run by the D1 womens folks intended to be instructional HS camps or tryout camps for college?
2. Are you saying that due to the time you spent at these camps this summer your end line whistle for the HS season is now a habit?
3. If we apply your logic of 'the extraneous whistle doesn't matter because people just notice the official doing what he is supposed to be doing' to the following would you think it is okay too?
Every time the official arrives at the reporting area he sounds the whistle prior to speaking to the table. What do you think of that?

Jway44 Thu Dec 06, 2007 09:32am

No whistle unless one is needed to signal basket or no basket. The horn ends the 1/4. Our association does not recognize a need to blow a whistle after the horn has already went off. As stated before, it only draws attention to the refs, and can cause confusion concerning whether there is a foul or not.

Nevadaref Thu Dec 06, 2007 09:35am

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Originally Posted by Jway44
No whistle unless one is needed to signal basket or no basket. The horn stops ends the 1/4. Our association does not recognize a need to blow a whistle after the horn has already went off. As stated before, it only draws attention to the refs, and can cause confusion concerning whether there is a foul or not.

Thank you. :)

Back In The Saddle Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref
3 questions for BITS:
1. Are the camps run by the D1 womens folks intended to be instructional HS camps or tryout camps for college?
2. Are you saying that due to the time you spent at these camps this summer your end line whistle for the HS season is now a habit?
3. If we apply your logic of 'the extraneous whistle doesn't matter because people just notice the official doing what he is supposed to be doing' to the following would you think it is okay too?
Every time the official arrives at the reporting area he sounds the whistle prior to speaking to the table. What do you think of that?

1. Some are one; some are the other. But you know how it goes. Every camp he puts on is a tryout camp in somebody's mind ;)

2. Yes. It became habit pretty quickly. And I've found no reason to try and break these habits.

3. I'll try it and let you know how it goes. ;)

Jurassic Referee Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:11am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
IOW:

1) It's not covered in the FED mechanics book

2) Reasonable people can disagree on what "should" be done.

3) Different areas have different "reasonable people" in charge

4) So, different areas do it differently.

5) You're entitled to your opinion.

6) As for the rest of it, KITFO.

You left out:

7) Who gives a sh!t anyway?

JRutledge Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:48am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
You left out:

7) Who gives a sh!t anyway?

I will take "Who gives a sh!t" for 1000 Alex. http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...mages/clap.gif

Peace

Scrapper1 Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:57am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
You left out:

7) Who gives a sh!t anyway?

Cross-reference the thread about "jumping out of bounds" to make a pass.

Jurassic Referee Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrapper1
Cross-reference the thread about "jumping out of bounds" to make a pass.

Place all in folder marked "Paralysis Through Analysis." Or alternatively "Silly Monkeys."

Luv4Asian8 Thu Dec 06, 2007 03:13pm

I'm along with a few others here. For HS, I don't whistle the end, even to wave off or score the goal. Only time is whistle at the end of a period is if there is a foul, and MAYBE a violation.

Marklarkin Wed Dec 05, 2018 05:13pm

End of Qtr./Game Whistle
 
NFHS Rule 5-8-2d

We all know that the horn is information only for substitution purposes, and we have a specific procedure we go through to allow substitutes to enter the game.

We also tell players to ignore horns when the ball is live. It is not the responsibility of the players to judge the status of the ball at the end of the period, or when there could have been an inadvertant horn.

The horn is information that time has run out of the quarter. Officials determine if there is any foul/violation/tap/try that has to be judged on before the quarter actually ends.

Since players are conditioned to stop play when they hear a whistle, the responsible official should sound their whistle to get the players attention to prevent further/unecessary play.

Also sounding your whistle right away and waving off a tap or try provides immediate information of your ruling.

Rich Wed Dec 05, 2018 05:16pm

Don't resurrect old threads.


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