Is it a foul?

[fisherj]

B1 blocks the shot with ball only contact. The ball makes contact with the head of A1 the shooter while the hand of B1 is still in contact with the ball. The resulting impact sends A1 to the floor. B1 never is in contact with anything other than the ball.

[crew]

no foul.

[zebraman]

There is no foul or violation here. Play on.
Z

[Slider]

Originally posted by fisherj
B1 blocks the shot with ball only contact. The ball makes contact with the head of A1 the shooter while the hand of B1 is still in contact with the ball. The resulting impact sends A1 to the floor. B1 never is in contact with anything other than the ball.

If B1 was Shaq swinging hard downward, and A1 was J.J. from Good Times (a beanpole), then conceivably the hit by B1 could be so forceful that it knocks A1 down. In that rare instance, I have a foul on B1.

[I meant foul on B1]

[I also wouldn't call this a foul unless the contact was excessive, i.e., an intentional personal foul, OR flagrant]

[Edited by Slider on Feb 4th, 2002 at 04:07 PM]

[fisherj]

It has only happened once that the player went to the floor. More than a few have been hurt as a result of this type of play. I do not care if the fans and coaches think I am an idiot as long I know am right.

[crew]

Originally posted by Slider

If B1 was Shaq swinging hard downward, and A1 was J.J. from Good Times (a beanpole), then conceivably the hit by B1 could be so forceful that it knocks A1 down. In that rare instance, I have a foul on A1.

if he hit all ball, i still wouldnt.

[tharbert]

When does the try for goal and subsequent block stop and loose ball play start?

A blocked shot back in the face is not a foul but if b1 then controls the ball and and gains an advantage by using the ball to push a1...

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by tharbert
A blocked shot back in the face is not a foul but if b1 then controls the ball and and gains an advantage by using the ball to push a1...

Rule reference please.

[crew]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

Rule reference please.

this is a judgement play that Tharbert is referring to.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by crew

this is a judgement play that Tharbert is referring to.

Exactly. You have to judge whether a rule has been broken or not. Which rule? Which rule allows a foul to be called without contact by a player?

[Slider]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Which rule allows a foul to be called without contact by a player?

Many Technical fouls are non-contact

But, seriously, if I push you away using the ball, so that I can get off a shot, wouldn't that be a player control foul?

Does contact have to be skin on skin?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Slider
But, seriously, if I push you away using the ball, so that I can get off a shot, wouldn't that be a player control foul?

I don't see how.

Does contact have to be skin on skin?

It has to be player to player.

[Slider]

Originally posted by BktBallRef Does contact have to be skin on skin?

It has to be player to player.

I don't know what you mean by player to player.

To me, player to player would include pushing another player away using the ball.

[BktBallRef]

It's really not a difficult concept, I don't think. For one player to foul another player, the player's body illegally contacts an opponent's body.

[Slider]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
It's really not a difficult concept, I don't think. For one player to foul another player, the player's body illegally contacts an opponent's body.

Then if I play defense and displace an airborne shooter by pushing on his jersey (while he is properly wearing it); there is no foul, correct?

[Edited by Slider on Feb 4th, 2002 at 11:52 PM]