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Rev.Ref63 Mon Dec 03, 2007 02:48pm
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Originally Posted by CLH
so big post player takes out the little guard on a drive to the basket, takes him to the floor, then stands over him staring him down, no words, just stands over him staring him down
There is nothing wrong with standing near someone and staring at them; or so, that's what I've been told. (Sorry JR - couldn't resist)

JRutledge Mon Dec 03, 2007 02:52pm
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Originally Posted by CLH
Dude, I couldn't care less if this was an exaggerated scene or not! I'm asking if sometime it actually plays out like the coach was instructing, what would you do? Actually, in the movie it doesn't even show that scene, it goes from the Texas huddle straight to the throw in. Intimidation is not illegal...hmm... ok, so big post player takes out the little guard on a drive to the basket, takes him to the floor, then stands over him staring him down, no words, just stands over him staring him down, and you're gonna no call that part. Get ready to have fun, cuz it's only getting worse from there! :D
OK no.

But this game was in the 60s and the rules about where players can or cannot stand during timeouts from my understanding were not in place as they are today. I would do nothing because nothing happen.

Peace

mick Mon Dec 03, 2007 02:53pm
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Originally Posted by Rev.Ref63
There is nothing wrong with standing near someone and staring at them; or so, that's what I've been told. (Sorry JR - couldn't resist)
You may wanna rethink that.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Dec 03, 2007 03:01pm
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Originally Posted by CLH
Oh yeah forgot also...

Rule 4, Section 7, Art. 2
During any timeout or before any extra period, bench personnel and
players shall locate themselves inside an imaginary rectangle formed by the
boundaries of the sideline (including the bench), end line and an imaginary
line extended from the free-throw lane line nearest the bench area meeting
an imaginary line extended from the coaching-box line.

CLH:

I hate to be the one that tells you this but the Rule you just quoted above did not exist when when the game was played.

MTD, Sr.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Dec 03, 2007 03:04pm
And on a more serious note. When Glory Road first came out, my two sons went to see the movie and wanted to know if I wanted to go with them. I told them no because I had watched the game live on television. :D True story.

MTD, Sr.

CLH Mon Dec 03, 2007 03:05pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge
OK no.

But this game was in the 60s and the rules about where players can or cannot stand during timeouts from my understanding were not in place as they are today. I would do nothing because nothing happen.

Peace
OH MY GOD!!!! I'm not asking you to go back to 1960 something!! Geeze, I'm speaking about right now, if this happened what would you do? I never once said let's travel back in time to the year "My Girl" went #1, I said if this happened to you sometime. Like maybe tonight! Are you in politics? You can find more ways to skirt around things than anyone I've ever been in contact with. But, I got love for ya, cuz at least you think of all angles, so you get props for that much! :eek:

Rev.Ref63 Mon Dec 03, 2007 03:10pm
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Originally Posted by mick
Originally Posted by Rev.Ref63
There is nothing wrong with standing near someone and staring at them; or so, that's what I've been told. (Sorry JR - couldn't resist)

You may wanna rethink that.
Okay - Sorry JR - I didn't want to resist.

bob jenkins Mon Dec 03, 2007 03:11pm
If you think it's "taunting", deal with it. That might include a T, it might include movign the team before the other huddle breaks up, it might include talking to the team, it might include standing between the teams, ...

inigo montoya Mon Dec 03, 2007 03:17pm
Actually, I wouldn't ever tell a player he had to trim his nails. I might tell his coach that a player can't play until he does, though.

And Bob, I would personally be careful stepping between two teams. But you have a lot more experience than I do. It just goes against everything I was taught dealing with teenagers in a tense situation.

JRutledge Mon Dec 03, 2007 03:18pm
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Originally Posted by CLH
OH MY GOD!!!! I'm not asking you to go back to 1960 something!! Geeze, I'm speaking about right now, if this happened what would you do? I never once said let's travel back in time to the year "My Girl" went #1, I said if this happened to you sometime. Like maybe tonight! Are you in politics? You can find more ways to skirt around things than anyone I've ever been in contact with. But, I got love for ya, cuz at least you think of all angles, so you get props for that much! :eek:
It would not have gotten to that point. Ts in my opinion are last resorts. I do not know how a player that is supposed to be on their end of the court would all of a sudden be in front of the other bench during a timeout without me or another partner (that knows what the hell they are doing) addressing that issue. It is clear you are single minded on this issue and you are not looking at the bigger picture. This is why you have had a couple of people mock your question already. At least I was trying to direct you to a reasonable conclusion.

Peace

Mark Padgett Mon Dec 03, 2007 03:22pm
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
And on a more serious note. When Glory Road first came out, my two sons went to see the movie and wanted to know if I wanted to go with them. I told them no because I had watched the game live on television. :D True story.

MTD, Sr.
Got ya' beat. I have a great grandson who played in that game. :D

OK, not a true story.

Nevadaref Mon Dec 03, 2007 09:30pm
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Originally Posted by CLH
Oh yeah forgot also...

Rule 4, Section 7, Art. 2
During any timeout or before any extra period, bench personnel and
players shall locate themselves inside an imaginary rectangle formed by the
boundaries of the sideline (including the bench), end line and an imaginary
line extended from the free-throw lane line nearest the bench area meeting
an imaginary line extended from the coaching-box line.
If we put this into a HS game:
If the TEAM breaks this rule, which is very similar in the NFHS, then I would instruct them to adhere to it. If they didn't, then the penalty would be a TEAM technical foul. There is a ruling that says when multiple members of a team commit some infraction the intent of the rules is to penalize it with one team technical foul, not each individual.

rainmaker Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:14pm
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Originally Posted by CLH
. So, again, KENTUCKY breaks their huddle and young Pat Riley turns around ?
Wasn't the Kentucky coach named Rupp?? I thought part of the story was that he was so impressed that he went back to Kentucky and integrated his program, and he was such a great coach that they named their new stadium after him all those years ago??

26 Year Gap Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:21pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Got ya' beat. I have a great grandson who played in that game. :D

OK, not a true story.
You're Diebler's Great Grampa? :eek: :eek: :eek:

JRutledge Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:39pm
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Originally Posted by rainmaker
Wasn't the Kentucky coach named Rupp?? I thought part of the story was that he was so impressed that he went back to Kentucky and integrated his program, and he was such a great coach that they named their new stadium after him all those years ago??
They named the arena after him because he basically made that program into a big time program. They did not name the arena after him because he was a well known civil rights activist. After this game, Kentucky was not all of a sudden a haven for Black players from the state of Kentucky. I do not think there was not a Black player that attended Kentucky until 1970.

Peace


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