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PYRef Thu Nov 29, 2007 09:34am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
In NCAA, we use the same signal to indicate that a time-out is only being used to make a substitution.

I know. That has nothing to do with the overall discussion. I'm just answering a direct question from PYRef.

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
What?!?!? That's impossible. There's no pivot foot during a timeout. You cannot travel during a timeout. It must be some unauthorized mechanic that only the big dogs can get away with. And it just burns my bottom that we're perpetuating the myth that there's a pivot foot during a timeout. Don't they know the endless trouble that's going to cause during my 4th grade travel league games? ;)

Sorry guys, the timeout for a substitution mechanic is different. It is done using only two fingers above the head.

Scrapper1 Thu Nov 29, 2007 09:48am

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Originally Posted by PYRef
Sorry guys, the timeout for a substitution mechanic is different. It is done using only two fingers above the head.

You should be sorry. Ok, that's a little stronger than I intended; but anybody swirling 2 fingers over their head should be embarrassed. That would look distinctly. . . goofy.

There actually isn't a signal listed for this in the CCA handbook this year, but I'm 99.999999999% positive that when it was introduced, it was the traveling signal. No way am I "swirling" unless I get ripped for the traveling signal.

PYRef Thu Nov 29, 2007 09:57am

Scrapper, if you have a 2007-08 NCAA rule book, go look on page 168 and you'll see this mechanic. Or just go to this link.
http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/20...ball_rules.pdf

and it's not exactly done by "swirling" your fingers like your wearing pink panties like you suggest.
Unless you do. (Not that there's anything wrong with that):)

Dan_ref Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:04am

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Originally Posted by PYRef
Scrapper, if you have a 2007-08 NCAA rule book, go look on page 168 and you'll see this mechanic. Or just go to this link.
http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/20...ball_rules.pdf

and it's not exactly done by "swirling" your fingers like your wearing pink panties like you suggest.
Unless you do. (Not that there's anything wrong with that):)

That's a woman's mechanic.

Those of us who know Scrappy know that he's a men's official...who happens to wear pink panties but there's nothing wrong with that (Well, nothing too wrong with that... he's just confused...)

btw I see it on p205

bob jenkins Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:07am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
I looked at those signals before my last post and believe that they do NOT convey that a violation of the spot has occurred, rather the signal is used to indicate the proper location of an ensuing throw-in following a foul or violation. In other words, I don't think that what you say is an intended use.

The NCAAM description says "throw in spot or designated spot violation"

I agree that the NCAAW description doesn't include the word "violation" and the signal is on the "information" page, not the "violation" page.

PYRef Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:11am

I apologize for the discrepancy in the link. It is pg. 168 in the 2008 rule book. The link is for the 2007 edition.

Yes it is listed as a women's mechanic, but there is also no mechanic listed under the men's for a team control foul either

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/20...ball_rules.pdfUpdated link

Scrapper1 Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:18am

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Originally Posted by PYRef
Scrapper, if you have a 2007-08 NCAA rule book, go look on page 168 and you'll see this mechanic.

I do have rulebook, but believe it or not, there are no signals in it. In the table of contents, it shows signals and gives a page number, but the book itself leaves those sections out. Very strange.

But I do see the signal on the PDF version that you linked. As Dan_ref said, it's a women's mechanic, which explains why I was not familiar with it. And as I said, I sure looks goofy.

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and it's not exactly done by "swirling" your fingers like your wearing pink panties like you suggest.
It sure looks like swirling. Yuck.

PYRef Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:20am

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It sure looks like swirling. Yuck.
OK, I might concede that a little:) but it is definitely different than the travel signal.

Scrapper1 Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:22am

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Originally Posted by PYRef
but it is definitely different than the travel signal.

I'll concede that, too. :)

Adam Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:36am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
I'll concede that, too. :)

get a room.


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