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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 08:46pm
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Anyone watching the Indiana/Ga Tech game?

Just saw a designated spot violation called with the traveling mechanic...
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 08:59pm
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Looks like Ed Hightower, Burr, and ?.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 09:01pm
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One of the ?s is Steve Welmer...I'm not 100% sure on the other?
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 09:02pm
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Yep... Welmer... just saw him adjusting his pants while in C.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 09:03pm
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Other is Burr. When I first typed it I could only see Ed as he was L, but then it went down to the other end - Burr came out with a call.

Who had the violation?

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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 09:05pm
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Ah, Burr. Thought that might be him. Burr is the one who called it.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 09:42pm
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Just saw a designated spot violation called with the traveling mechanic...
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 10:00pm
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I've seen it countless times on TV in D-1 games. Officials get to that level by managing games and being believable, not by having book-perfect mechanics.

However, it is confounding to think that it never entered their mind that it is impossible to travel when pivot foot restrictions do not apply.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 10:46pm
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I plead ignorance...what mechanic should be used?
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 10:50pm
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I plead ignorance...what mechanic should be used?
Open hand for a violation. There is no other approved mechanic.
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Old Tue Nov 27, 2007, 11:29pm
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Open hand for a violation. There is no other approved mechanic.
My guess is these guys know this. My guess is they don't care because they think there should be a mechanic. My guess is they don't care because the coaches are smart enough to know what the call is when the use the mechanic.

My problem is when the 7th grade AAU coach is watching this and think the call was traveling, then thinks his players can't move their pivot foot during a throwin. You can usually tell these coaches by the way their players execute a throwin. If the thrower is pivoting off one foot like he's inbounds, his coach is 98.531341343513431% more likely to yell at you for not calling the other team's inbounder for traveling.
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Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 12:15am
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My guess is these guys know this. My guess is they don't care because they think there should be a mechanic.
I was observing a D-2 tournament a couple weekends ago. After the first game, I was sitting with two of the officials as we watched the 2nd game. An official called a throw-in violation for running the endline on a spot throw-in. He gave the correct signal. One of the D-2 guys said, "why didn't he give the traveling signal?" We explained it to him.... took a while for him to comprehend.
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Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 04:00am
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Open hand for a violation. There is no other approved mechanic.
That may be true for NCAA play, but there is a signal for this violation in NFHS rules.

The NFHS signal is #26 on the chart.

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Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 07:44am
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Such terrible officials. I don't know how they get games

Nobody (but us) cares.

I was wondering watching the game if anyone would comment on this crew (I know Welmer and Hightower are favorites of many here). Me, I was thinking "what a high-powered crew for a non-conference game."
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Old Wed Nov 28, 2007, 08:34am
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I was wondering watching the game if anyone would comment on this crew (I know Welmer and Hightower are favorites of many here). Me, I was thinking "what a high-powered crew for a non-conference game."
This is part of the ACC/Big Ten Challenge. These are high profile games, so the officiating crews are being assigned accordingly.
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