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[jdw3018]

Since I have nothing better to do, I'll give you my thoughts on your call:

Originally Posted by truerookie

A1 shooting a 3 pointer. While in the air but before the release, he is fouled by B1. After the release, but before returning to the floor, A1 is also fouled by B2. [B](False Multiple Foul)[/B] penalize accordingly.I don't see this as false. Two fouls on an airborne shooter constitute "approximately the same time" in my opinion.

While the shot is in the air, A2 fouls B3. Common Foul ball is still live

The ball, while traveling toward the hoop but not yet in the cylinder, is touched by A3. The three attempt turns into a two unless A3 is behind the three point line.Good catch. I argue it matters a lot whether the touching was intentional and/or while on the way down, as either would end the try and disallow the basket.

Also before the ball is in the cylinder, B4 grabs the rim and snaps it. The ball goes in. Technical foul; score the basket for BI two points

Team A shoots two for grasping of the rim

Immediately, Coach B yells out a profanity at you personally and when you turn your head. Unsporting Technical Two shoots for Team BGuessing you mean Team A here, as the T was on B.

you discover A4 and B4 are both wearing illegal jerseys. Team A will shot 2 for the illegal jersey; Team B will shoot 2 for the illegal jersey. You can't penalize for the illegal jerseys, as you can only penalize when they enter the game (or starters at the beginning of the game).

and Coach A is out of the box punching Coach B. Double flagrant technical with both coaches being ejected for fighting. No free throws; Two free throws for team b for coach A being out of the box I'm only ejecting B if he's actually engaged in the fight.

So, I have team a shooting 4 free throws for team B be infractions;
I have team B shooting 6 free throws for team A infractions.

I have A-1 shooting 2 free throws for the foul committed by B1 because of the touching of the ball by A3; shooting 2 for the foul by B2 before returning to the floor fouling an airbourne shooter. I'm on the multiple foul ruling here, which would give 1, or 2, FTs for each foul based on whether the try was successful or not and whether it was a 3-pointer or not.

B's ball at division line for throw-in.

I have nothing else better to do so this is my call.

Whew.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by truerookie

A1 shooting a 3 pointer. While in the air but before the release, he is fouled by B1. After the release, but before returning to the floor, A1 is also fouled by B2. [B](False Multiple Foul)[/b] penalize accordingly.

Nope...actual multiple foul (approximatley the same time...don't split timing hairs in multiple/double fouls).

Originally Posted by truerookie

The ball, while traveling toward the hoop but not yet in the cylinder, is touched by A3. The three attempt turns into a two unless A3 is behind the three point line.

Also before the ball is in the cylinder, B4 grabs the rim and snaps it. The ball goes in. Technical foul; score the basket for BI two points

If A3's prior touch was GT, then there is no BI on B. In fact, there is no BI on B at all if the rim returns to it's normal position before the ball gets there.

Originally Posted by truerookie

you discover A4 and B4 are both wearing illegal jerseys. Team A will shot 2 for the illegal jersey; Team B will shoot 2 for the illegal jersey.

Not at this time...only penalized when entering/reentering.

Originally Posted by truerookie

and Coach A is out of the box punching Coach B. Double flagrant technical with both coaches being ejected for fighting. No free throws; Two free throws for team b for coach A being out of the box

Only a T on coach A. There is no rule against being hit. Unless you can tell me what rule coach B violated, there is no T on coach B. Fighting doesn't necessarily take two people....it's an attempt to strike another person.

Edit.... The only other way to be charged with fighting is to do something which provokes a fight...could be words, getures, etc. However, breathing is not a qualifying provocation.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

NF rules. A1 shooting a 3 pointer. While in the air but before the release, he is fouled by B1. After the release, but before returning to the floor, A1 is also fouled by B2. While the shot is in the air, A2 fouls B3. The ball, while traveling toward the hoop but not yet in the cylinder, is touched by A3. Also before the ball is in the cylinder, B4 grabs the rim and snaps it. The ball goes in. Immediately, Coach B yells out a profanity at you personally and when you turn your head, you discover A4 and B4 are both wearing illegal jerseys and Coach A is out of the box punching Coach B. What's the call(s)?

OK - it sounds silly and it would never happen (probably) but it's a good exercise in knowing and applying rules. Any takers?

It's a DO-OVER!

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

It's a DO-OVER!

Dang it. That's way better than my attempt.

Sorry for the euphemism.

[bigdog5142]

If this happened in one of my games...I think I would just pee my pants, cry and then leave the gym.

[Adam]

Two words.

Fetal position.

[Mark Padgett]

Oh yeah - I forgot to mention that three players from each team were dunking during warmups. And - the game is not in Kansas.

To answer an earlier question, the ball was touched on its downward arch.

Another oh yeah - B4 is wearing taped nipple rings, but they're medic alert.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by bigdog5142

I think I would just pee my pants

I think you actually have to take your whistle off for this one.

[26 Year Gap]

Hey, it wasn't in my area!

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Hey, it wasn't in my area!

Liar.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Liar.

Thank you.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

It's a DO-OVER!

Thank you for the best response of the thread.

[sfd]

OK, I've been reading here a long time, calling games for 2 years, and now posting a reply.

I enjoy looking around here as there is sometimes good information and sometimes good fun poking.

So, taking sections of this and assuming any one of them could happen, here is what I wonder.

How about A1 doesn't get FTs because his shot ended when touched by A4(or was it A3?) Unless in the bonus
Well, not really ended, but became a pass, right?

And why does A4 (or A3)'s touching matter if it was upward or on the way down? If it's not in the cylinder, is it not the same as an 'alley-oop'? I have seen several passes like this that look like an attempt until the teammate catches it.

Other than that, I heard an inadvertant whistle right before all this started. Throw out everybody who's not playing nice and give A the ball at POI.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by sfd

How about A1 doesn't get FTs because his shot ended when touched by A4(or was it A3?) Unless in the bonus
Well, not really ended, but became a pass, right?

If A1 was in the act of shooting when fouled, it doesn't matter what happens after that. A1 is not even required to release the ball...the foul may prevent the release.

Originally Posted by sfd

And why does A4 (or A3)'s touching matter if it was upward or on the way down? If it's not in the cylinder, is it not the same as an 'alley-oop'? I have seen several passes like this that look like an attempt until the teammate catches it.

On the way down and has a chance to go in...GT. Yes, some "alley-oops" are technically GT...but rarely (never) called. Usually, you can tell pass/try as passes usually have a flatter trajectory and are released in a completely different way.

[sfd]

Ok, I'll go with that. But then the basket shouldn't count at all, regardless of if it went in or where A1s teammate touched it, and A1 gets 3FT. The shot remains live after the foul but should end when touched by a teammate. Only if B touched it (GT) then it would be scored.