Sorry, I misspelled "Thank you."

I understand. It must be that time of month.

Oops, now I've done it...

If I'm not mistaken I think Mark Twain said something like this. There's lies and their's damned lies. It was just a lie.

Have a good day.:D

98% of us think you're making that up. :D

How is it a lie to tell the coach your partner had a better look at it? :confused: I know what <B>I</B> saw, but I don't know what <B>my partner</B> saw, especially if it's in their area.

You also haven't answered my questions yet.

FWIW, if you had that good a look at it, you may as well just own up to the coach and say you missed it.

I'll answer it like this. I don't lie to my friends (partners) if you do it's a damned lie. Coaches aren't my friends so it's a lie.

If you tell me in 20 years of reffing you never ever, ever, ever:D lied to a Coach that's a damned lie.

Touche'

Why get the coach involved? Just look at the guy who flopped and say thank you.

I personally do not care whether a coach thinks I lied to them or not. I do not worry about what coaches ultimately think. They already think you lie and cheat, so what is another conversation going to do to change that opinion?

And if my partner sees something and I disagree with it, you damn right I am going to lie to save my partner. My partner is my friend, not a coach. Coaches will sell you out all the time even when you are completely honest with them.

Stop worrying about credibility that you have with coaches. If you lose credibility just because of one conversation the coach is worry too much about you and not their team.

JMO.

Peace

You're making a big assumption that I know for sure my partner blew a call. I may have a pretty good idea, but I'm not going to lie to a coach. I may tell the coach I'll try to get an explanation from my partner at the next opportunity. I may, in rare instances, go to my partner and give them information that might help them change their call.

I've done plenty of things wrong in 20 years. And I'll probably do a few things wrong before this week is done. I'm constantly working on trying to get things right.

But I guess I'm not following your logic. What does that have to do with <B>purposely</B> calling a foul with no contact? I'm waiting to hear your justification for doing that, and then lying to the coach about why you made that particular call.

I'm talking about the credibility of your partner. If you're doing the right thing, who cares what other people think? But can you work with, and trust, a partner who makes up calls?

I am going to trust them for that night. After that is a different situation. But that has nothing to do with what we are talking about right now.

Look on most nights I am working with different people on a regular basis. I do not always work with the same guys as you might be able to. And because of that I can work with people of all levels. I am not going to sweat the small stuff that often, because if I did I would really drive myself crazy.

Peace

I've never "T'd" a player for flopping... however this is the way I deal with it...

1. I'll tell the player in no uncretain terms to get up

2a. Any marginal contact by this player (by flopping); most likely will be a foul so that...

2b. At the 1st chance to educate the player as to the penalty for flopping.

3. If the behavior continues at this point, when the oppurtunity allows itself I'll go to the coach and say "Coach, I need your help with number ___, In my view he (or she) is continuing to fake being fouled (flopping) after I have warned them, I would like you to address this before I have to. Thank you"

4. By this point, it should be dealt with however there is no question if there is a "T" for flopping, it will not be a surprise to anyone...

My 2 cents

So first you warn the player, then you really warn him, then you warn his coach that you warned him. Do you have any rules backup for all those warnings?

Flopping is an unsporting T. Why not avail yourself of the rulebook penalty?