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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 11:48am
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I apologize for uttering profanity by using the word indiscreetly. Kudos to Nevada and jdw for immediately assessing the T. Looks like I would have only got a warning from Coltdoggs.

Hopefully no one needs an explanation of this post and how it applies to this thread but I will if asked.

Hint: Snaqwells just issued a T to gordon30307 and I agree with it. Anybody else want to say argh too?
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 11:56am
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It became official last week.

The english language has officially reached 1 million words.

No reason to curse or use profanity or other indiscretions with so many alternatives at our discretion.
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 11:59am
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It became official last week.

The english language has officially reached 1 million words.

No reason to curse or use profanity or other indiscretions with so many alternatives at our discretion.
... disposal? convenience? fingertips?

...so many choices at hand? ....so many options?

I see your point...

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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 01:21pm
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If its language I wouldn't want my kids to hear, then thats my yardstick. But profainity is in the ears of the beholder.

Saturday in a Girls Varsity game, I wacked a player whose response to a foul call was a very angry and loud "I didn't touch her!" Earlier in the same game another girl muttered sh!t under her breath when she didn't get a foul call and turned the ball over. I asked her if I heard her right, and when she admitted it, I told her to watch the language. So while profanity is a no-no, sometimes the manner of the player is more important than the words.
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 01:36pm
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If you hear cursing on the court, is it an automatic T ?
No.
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 01:52pm
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The english language has officially reached 1 million words.

No reason to curse or use profanity or other indiscretions with so many alternatives at our discretion.
That is simply not true. Since you're a preacher, I'll use this example.

A pastor was delivering his sermon one Sunday. He was stressing the fact "loving your neighbor" means loving everyone, not just those people who live conveniently nearby. He spoke of the plight of Ethiopians affected by devastating drought.

"Hundreds of thousands of people have starved to death in that country. But here in this country, most people just don't give a damn about that."

He paused.

"And the really sad fact is that most of you are more concerned that your pastor just said 'damn' than you are about 200,000 starving brothers and sisters."

A silly little parable, but it illustrates that profanity sometimes has a purpose that normal discourse can't provide. In this case, it was intended to jar the audience into a perspective that the facts and figures alone didn't illuminate.

I'm not saying that profanity is always a good thing, or that it should never be punished on the basketball court. I'm simply trying to illustrate that it's not really true to say that there's "no reason" for profanity. There are lots of reasons. They may just not be valid on the basketball court.
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 04:27pm
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This might be one I let go. Not sure, though.

Had a Boys freshman coach last year ask me, in reference to a hot head on the other team, "Can he say 'Bull sh!t' like that?"

I didn't hear it, told the coach as much, and did not T the coach.

Even "automatics" have exceptions, I guess.
Snaqs...reminds me of the old one liner a Coach used in addressing an official.

Coach: "Hey Mr. Official...I'm not saying you are full of sh!t...but, can I THINK you are full of sh!t?"

Official: "Thank-you."
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 04:40pm
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Snaqs...reminds me of the old one liner a Coach used in addressing an official.

Coach: "Hey Mr. Official...I'm not saying you are full of sh!t...but, can I THINK you are full of sh!t?"

Official: "Thank-you."
Now, see, RD, you didn't read that thread carefully. I told you I never say "Thank you" in response to a question. THAT would be confusing, eh, bz?
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 04:43pm
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sometimes the manner of the player is more important than the words.
Sometimes? Almost always in my games.

Example:

A couple years ago, I had a H.S. Varsity player throw his hands up in the air and say something to me as I was going to the table to report a foul on him.

I simply put the whistle back in my mouth and whacked him.

The Coach motioned me over as the FT's were being shot. He asked me what the player said. I stated, "I don't know." He kind of just looked at me....and then I went on to say, "It isn't WHAT he said, it's HOW he said it."

I penalize for unsportsmanlike BEHAVIOR...the language is something else.

BTW...If a Coach asks what a player said when he/she has just been T'd for cursing....don't let the Coach get you to say the actual curse words...just tell the Coach "profanity, Coach."
You don't have to repeat the bad language.
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BTW...If a Coach asks what a player said when he/she has just been T'd for cursing....don't let the Coach get you to say the actual curse words...just tell the Coach "profanity, Coach."
You don't have to repeat the bad language.
"Coach, he said that word that starts with F and ends with *** (you say the letters) and it wasn't FIRETRUCK."
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 05:40pm
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"Coach, he said that word that starts with F and ends with *** (you say the letters) and it wasn't FIRETRUCK."
LOL...yea...I stole that line from you a few years back.

I actually used that once in a Varsity game when my partner had T'd up a player for saying the F word.

The coach asked me what he said, I was feeling frisky that night so I told the Coach just what you stated...except I just said, "The word started with an F and ends with a K...and it isn't FIRETRUCK."

The Coach didn't think it was too funny...but, he didn't argue the call.
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 06:13pm
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BTW...If a Coach asks what a player said when he/she has just been T'd for cursing....don't let the Coach get you to say the actual curse words...just tell the Coach "profanity, Coach."
You don't have to repeat the bad language.
I tell them. I do not want them to assume the context. I will repeat the entire phrase and think nothing of it. Just like I would do if I had to fill out and ejection report. I want the coaches and everyone to know what was said so they cannot claim I heard something else. It is not always the words themselves that are bad; it is the way the words were used that adds to the context of the actions.

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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 07:38pm
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I tell them. I do not want them to assume the context. I will repeat the entire phrase and think nothing of it.
If that works for you...great. I could really care less what they "assume". If I'm managing the game...then my definition of profanity is profanity...it is what it is.

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Just like I would do if I had to fill out and ejection report.
Agree, now we are in different territory IMO...my report is specific.

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I want the coaches and everyone to know what was said so they cannot claim I heard something else.
Again, I don't care if the coaches know the specific words...if they can't trust that I know what profanity is...then they shouldn't have me there.

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It is not always the words themselves that are bad; it is the way the words were used that adds to the context of the actions.
Is there an echo in here...
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 07:46pm
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I tell them. I do not want them to assume the context. I will repeat the entire phrase and think nothing of it. Just like I would do if I had to fill out and ejection report. I want the coaches and everyone to know what was said so they cannot claim I heard something else. It is not always the words themselves that are bad; it is the way the words were used that adds to the context of the actions.

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It's my turn to channel Jeff (someone get Juulie a cold rag before she passes out...) so I agree.

Coach asks what his player said to merit a T and I'll tell him. I might even embellish it a bit to make the story more exciting....
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Old Mon Nov 26, 2007, 08:53pm
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If that works for you...great.
Thank-you.
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