Hypothetical: Tech before leaving court

[Adam]

Originally Posted by sseltser

I believe that the question isn't should you call the T. I believe that the question is does A1 get to shoot his final free throw?

I say yes although there was a game in my area where a very similar play happened and the coach got the T after the time ran out in the 4th. His team was not awarded its remaining free throws. He appealed to the section office and lost the appeal.

1. The coach was an idiot for getting the T.
2. The refs should have given his players the remaining free throws that would have otherwise been disregarded.
3. This generally isn't the type of play that appeals processes are meant to rectify. The officials may have kicked the pooch, but they have to live with it.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

3. This generally isn't the type of play that appeals processes are meant to rectify. The officials may have kicked the pooch, but they have to live with it.

Seems to me this is exactly the kind of play that could be appealed. It is a rule misapplication, not a judgment call.

[Adam]

My understanding is appeals are generally meant to deal with things like ineligible players; the type of situations where the resolution involves forfeit.

If this type of play is appealed successfully, both teams need to show up for a game, prepared for overtime, with the possibility that there might be only one free throw shot.

I suppose that's possible, but it would most likely lead to logistical concerns in most levels of ball.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Seems to me this is exactly the kind of play that could be appealed. It is a rule misapplication, not a judgment call.

Most state bodies that I know of will not generally accept an appeal based on a judgement call or a misapplication of a rule. They will get involved in player eligibility, misconduct of participants, highly unusual situations, stuff like that. But maybe they do take rules protests in Mass.?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Most state bodies that I know of will not generally accept an appeal based on a judgement call or a misapplication of a rule. They will get involved in player eligibility, misconduct of participants, highly unusual situations, stuff like that. But maybe they do take rules protests in Mass.?

My thoughts too. Officials kick rules all the time. The appeals court would be backed up.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Most state bodies that I know of will not generally accept an appeal based on a judgement call or a misapplication of a rule. They will get involved in player eligibility, misconduct of participants, highly unusual situations, stuff like that. But maybe they do take rules protests in Mass.?

A counterexample: http://www.sierrasun.com/article/200...PORTS/71105009

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

A counterexample: http://www.sierrasun.com/article/200...PORTS/71105009

A sterling example of why it seldom happens. It's almost always a mess. There is rarely a good way to "fix" things like this. And it can often be costly and inconvenient to try. Plus, whatever the final outcome, somebody will be unhappy with it and it inevitably becomes a PR black eye. As a matter of policy, it's just better to live with the original result, ugly though it may be.

[isualum12]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

A counterexample: http://www.sierrasun.com/article/200...PORTS/71105009

As a soccer official also .....They blew this one big time...This is very basic stuff...

[Adam]

Once they realized their error, shouldn't they have cancelled the results of the first two attempts of the 2nd round, had the coaches pick 5 new kickers, and started the 2nd round of the shootout over? would have been much simpler, easier to explain, and less flogging all the way around.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Once they realized their error, shouldn't they have cancelled the results of the first two attempts of the 2nd round, had the coaches pick 5 new kickers, and started the 2nd round of the shootout over? would have been much simpler, easier to explain, and less flogging all the way around.

It seems like just about any actual solution would have been better than what happened.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

A counterexample: http://www.sierrasun.com/article/200...PORTS/71105009

"What they're calling it, which I get a kick out of, is they misinterpreted the rules," (Coach) Anderson said. "You don't even need to know the game to understand the rules. I don't get that."

Can anyone make any sense out of this statement?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by LDUB

"What they're calling it, which I get a kick out of, is they misinterpreted the rules," (Coach) Anderson said. "You don't even need to know the game to understand the rules. I don't get that."

Can anyone make any sense out of this statement?

I can, because the rule as explained makes sense to me; but I don't know jack about soccer.