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Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 01:09pm
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 01:37pm
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This discussion reminds me of a game a few years ago. My team is down by about 14 with maybe 4 minutes left. The officials were doing a great job up until this point, when I started to notice that hand checking and blocking fouls were being called less and less (on both teams). With about 3 minutes or so left, after two consecutive possessions of my players being hand-checked with both hands and no call, one of the officials responds to my questioning as he runs by on the change of possession. "I'm not gonna call that now, its basically over."

I call a time out, instruct my players to press man-to-man, hand-check, go for steals by disrupting their opponents arms, basically to either get a steal or get a foul call. Since the game is "basically over", the officials aren't calling any of these fouls so we go on a 10-0 run. With about 50 seconds left, an obvious reach-in-slap-across-the-arm is finally called. Our opponent misses the front end of the 1-and-1 and we come down and score a layup, I call timeout. Down by 2 with 44 seconds left, I instruct my team to not foul and just play defense straight up. If we get a defensive stop, we go to overtime. Our opponent inbounds the ball and their guard is expecting to get fouled so he is holding the ball haphazardly and actually takes 2 steps towards the basket he will be shooting the FTs he assumes he will be shooting (without dribbling!). No call. With the ball held out in front of him, one of my players runs up and just takes the ball, no contact. WHISTLE! Official calls the foul.

Opposing player makes both FTs, we miss our subsequent shot. We go to foul and my guard fouls opposing guard across the arm mildy. Officials do not blow the whistle so my player tries to foul a little bit harder. No call. On the third attempt to foul, the final buzzer sounds so the game is over. As I am shaking the hand of the opposing coach, one of the officials walks by and says to me "you really made a travesty of the game". I don't respond, but the opposing coach says to me "those refs really sucked". WHISTLE! I get called for a technical foul.

Maybe I should have just accepted the fact that we were going to lose with 3 minutes left, saved everybody some trouble.
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 02:00pm
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This discussion reminds me of a game a few years ago. My team is down by about 14 with maybe 4 minutes left. The officials were doing a great job up until this point, when I started to notice that hand checking and blocking fouls were being called less and less (on both teams). With about 3 minutes or so left, after two consecutive possessions of my players being hand-checked with both hands and no call, one of the officials responds to my questioning as he runs by on the change of possession. "I'm not gonna call that now, its basically over."

I call a time out, instruct my players to press man-to-man, hand-check, go for steals by disrupting their opponents arms, basically to either get a steal or get a foul call. Since the game is "basically over", the officials aren't calling any of these fouls so we go on a 10-0 run. With about 50 seconds left, an obvious reach-in-slap-across-the-arm is finally called. Our opponent misses the front end of the 1-and-1 and we come down and score a layup, I call timeout. Down by 2 with 44 seconds left, I instruct my team to not foul and just play defense straight up. If we get a defensive stop, we go to overtime. Our opponent inbounds the ball and their guard is expecting to get fouled so he is holding the ball haphazardly and actually takes 2 steps towards the basket he will be shooting the FTs he assumes he will be shooting (without dribbling!). No call. With the ball held out in front of him, one of my players runs up and just takes the ball, no contact. WHISTLE! Official calls the foul.

Opposing player makes both FTs, we miss our subsequent shot. We go to foul and my guard fouls opposing guard across the arm mildy. Officials do not blow the whistle so my player tries to foul a little bit harder. No call. On the third attempt to foul, the final buzzer sounds so the game is over. As I am shaking the hand of the opposing coach, one of the officials walks by and says to me "you really made a travesty of the game". I don't respond, but the opposing coach says to me "those refs really sucked". WHISTLE! I get called for a technical foul.

Maybe I should have just accepted the fact that we were going to lose with 3 minutes left, saved everybody some trouble.
That's bad...I would be lying if I said I love late game fouling, but you have to call the game until the buzzer sounds...I'm there to officiate a game...I'm not there for 60 or 90 minutes and only 60 or 90 minutes or however long the game takes in terms of time...I'm there to do the game from tip to final buzzer...
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Old Wed Nov 14, 2007, 02:02pm
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Y2Koach, I would have hated to be in a situation like that. If it was me and I recognized what was going on, I would call the first foul I saw regardless of where it is on the court. Some officials' idea of doing a good job is warped to say the least.

Oh, I forgot. Part 3. During the girls varsity game (remember, we do double-headers) I'm at the C, my partner who admitted there was contact after the game is lead and my partner who should have called the contact was trail. This play occured in the second half, opposite the table.
The ball is going out of bounds in the far corner near the endline. A girl from the home team, who is on offense, throws the ball over her shoulder to save it. The ball is up in the air and 8 players are on that half of the court. The best player from the other team has a shorter girl in front of her. They both jump for the ball, but the taller girl is literally almost on her back like a piggy-back ride - this girl is a freshmen, is about 6' and probably blocked 10 shots. The ball ends up going out of bounds and there is a whistle. Well, in the meantime, the two girls come down and the taller girl grabs both of the other girl's shoulders and flings her to the ground. The official at lead was looking at the ball going out of bounds and the other official was.....I don't know what he was doing - probably watching the ball too. Everyone in the gym sees this, it is that obvious since the ball and all the players are now in the area. "TWEET, TWEET, TWEET", here I come running. Intentional foul, which was the least that should have been done. Again, this guy was not on it and missing something like this is how fights occur. The girls game was competitive otherwise and could have got real ugly.

We have the capability to block partners and schools. I think I have someone blocked who isn't officiating this year and I can't find a way to remove it. Too bad because this is someone I don't want to work with anymore. He was pissed after the game, but I wasn't rude or anything. I just mentioned what I thought without sugar-coating it. That is when my other partner said, "There was contact; I could have called it too."
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