Whistle upon taking the court pregame

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

just a courtesy to the players, in my view.

Exactly.

You do not HAVE to blow your whistle when you come out onto the floor. I was in a game last year where we had been standing on the court for at least 5 minutes and were obviously visible to ALL players, coaches, fans, etc. and a kid went up and monster dunked it. Brain fart I guess??? We assessed the technical.

If you blow the whistle it is a courtesy. In Texas it is common practice for high school games (boys) and for JuCo. For NCAA (any division) it is not necessary because the rule is no dunking under the 30 min period preceding the game.

Now, if we can only get officials to stop doing the "White this way, black this way." thing right before the jump ball

[Brad]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

Texas decided to keep the Time out positions at the top of the key, and the low block, for 30 and 60 second time outs, respectively.

Threadjack here...

Anyone know WHY this was decided on? The new NFHS mechanic makes a LOT more sense.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by msavakinas

alright so one time I was at a clinic and I was only 17 at the time. I was the young buck but I kept gettin high praise from the assigners. Well one of the JV assignors who I had been working for most of my games thought I needed an ego deflation, so he told one of my partners (it was 3 man), to blow back my toss at least 5 times... So we're sittin there in the varsity summer league and my toss keeps gettin blown back and I'm gettin pissed at myself cause I'm embarassing myself and I can't believe my tosses are that bad... then finally I see all the other referees laughing their @sses off in the corner... at my expense. it was pretty funny.

And now the R can designate who tosses.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Brad

Now, if we can only get officials to stop doing the "White this way, black this way." thing right before the jump ball

I admit I don't have the mechanics manual, but isn't something like that in there?

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

Almost sounds like a joke. Which got me to thinking, has anyone ever been the recipient or masterminded a joke on some other official. Such as baby powder in the whistle, etc....

I realize that I am a bit late to this one, but I have a joke that I played on a fellow official that you might like.

I was working a state tournament and had met some really good guys there and we became fast friends. We were up late every night and watched each and every game there. I was working the girls state championship game before the boys game. Before the game started, I told some of our fellow officials of my idea.

We needed to find the local constable and get him in on the plan.

Anyway, what I did was tell the police officer after the 1st quarter of my game to go up to this official and tell him that he was going to have to leave the gym until after the girls game was over because the officials on the floor were distracted by his presence at the game. At the end of the quarter while we were waiting for play to resume, my partner and I are doing the best that we can to keep our laughter inside as we watch the interaction between the police and our new buddy. The look on his face was priceless as he was asked to leave. The police officer took it a step further and had started to escort him out of his seat and down the stairs. He got halfway down when he looked at me and I winked. He laughed pretty hard when he realized what was up.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I admit I don't have the mechanics manual, but isn't something like that in there?

Just took a quick look......no mention of that anymore. It just says that the R is supposed to notify both captains that play is about to begin, and then is to blow his/her whistle before he/she tosses.

Maybe not a bad idea though for players below the varsity level. And for partners with a short attention span.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by FrankHtown

and also Texas decided to keep the Time out positions at the top of the key, and the low block, for 30 and 60 second time outs, respectively.

I'm confused - isn't this the NFHS mechanic? I'm looking at it right here in my officials' manual...unless we're talking 2-man?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I'm confused - isn't this the NFHS mechanic? I'm looking at it right here in my officials' manual...unless we're talking 2-man?

We're talking 2-man.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Having the R sounds his whistle is the stupidist and most idiotic thing I have ever heard of, not to mentioin it is not sanctioned in the NFHS Officials Manual. The players and coaches know that they are not to dunk a dead ball. If they are stupid enough to dunk a dead ball and be caught by the officials too bad. I don't plan on moving to Texas, but if I did, no partner of mine would be sounding his whistle as we entered the court. I would take his whistle from him and would not give it to him until just before the start of the game. This mechanic is just a lot of nonsense because some officials are afraid to do their job and more importantly, too many coaches will not do their job.

Yawn.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Yawn.

Yeah, apparently he was taking JR's meds that morning. Made him grumpy.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, apparently he was taking JR's meds that morning. Made him grumpy.

Well, seeing I having given you my opinion yet, I'll give it to you now.

The practice of blowing your whistle before entering a gym is patently ridiculous, just like Mark said. It's just another excuse for (a) officials with no balls to avoid having to call a righteous T, and (2) coaches and players to circumvent and ignore a rule that's been in place forever.

It's just dumb to play little kid's games like this. The intent of the rule was never to put any kind of onus on the officials. The rule was made to stop dunking in the warmup. The onus for doing so was placed directly on all of the players and their head coaches. All this nonsense is doing is just saying "hey, dunk all you want. The officials are gonna warn you when to stop anyway." If Texas feels that there's nothing the matter with pre-game dunking, then they should just legalize it.

Stoopid monkeys.

That ain't being grumpy either btw. That's jmo.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

That ain't being grumpy either btw. That's jmo.

There's a difference?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Well, seeing I having given you my opinion yet, I'll give it to you now.

The practice of blowing your whistle before entering a gym is patently ridiculous, just like Mark said. It's just another excuse for (a) officials with no balls to avoid having to call a righteous T, and (2) coaches and players to circumvent and ignore a rule that's been in place forever.

It's just dumb to play little kid's games like this. The intent of the rule was never to put any kind of onus on the officials. The rule was made to stop dunking in the warmup. The onus for doing so was placed directly on all of the players and their head coaches. All this nonsense is doing is just saying "hey, dunk all you want. The officials are gonna warn you when to stop anyway." If Texas feels that there's nothing the matter with pre-game dunking, then they should just legalize it.

Stoopid monkeys.

That ain't being grumpy either btw. That's jmo.

JR:

I couldn't have said it better.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. The check with payment for your support in this matter is in the mail.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, apparently he was taking JR's meds that morning. Made him grumpy.

Apparently they've both been heavily self-medicating with them.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Well, seeing I having given you my opinion yet

Stoopid monkeys.

Pot. . . Kettle.

Just sayin'.