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Jurassic Referee Fri Oct 26, 2007 07:42am
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Originally Posted by grunewar
Question - what if one or two players also stood up at about the same time and mouthed off? Would you whack em all?
I would personally. You do the crime, you do the time. That's only fair imo. Note that there are no hard and fast rules though. Sometimes a warning might be a better option. It's whatever feels right to do at that particular time in that particular game.

It's amazing how quickly they learn after they get whacked, "they" being everybody on the bench. Note though that I've never believed in bench watching. If I see it, I'll take care of it. If I hear it and it's exceptionally bad but I can't identify who said it, I'll get the person responsible for bench conduct----> the coach. Works for me. Other methods may work just as well for other officials. As long as the game is controlled, who cares?

Jmo.......

FrankHtown Fri Oct 26, 2007 08:03am
Wait a minute... If they had screamed "Bhudda"...or "Confuscious" or "Ghandi" would you have T'd them up??

In this age of PC, it behooves you to consider everyone's feelings.



Sorry, I was watching Hannity and Colmbes, and Colmbes was on last. Please disregard.

mbyron Fri Oct 26, 2007 08:08am
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Originally Posted by FrankHtown
Wait a minute... If they had screamed "Bhudda"...or "Confuscious" or "Ghandi" would you have T'd them up??

In this age of PC, it behooves you to consider everyone's feelings.

Sorry, I was watching Hannity and Colmbes, and Colmbes was on last. Please disregard.
Wasn't very funny to begin with, but then you screwed up every name in here except Hannity's. That might send a message.

mbyron Fri Oct 26, 2007 08:34am
You go girl! I agree!

tomegun Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:32am
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
I would personally. You do the crime, you do the time. That's only fair imo. Note that there are no hard and fast rules though. Sometimes a warning might be a better option. It's whatever feels right to do at that particular time in that particular game.

It's amazing how quickly they learn after they get whacked, "they" being everybody on the bench. Note though that I've never believed in bench watching. If I see it, I'll take care of it. If I hear it and it's exceptionally bad but I can't identify who said it, I'll get the person responsible for bench conduct----> the coach. Works for me. Other methods may work just as well for other officials. As long as the game is controlled, who cares?

Jmo.......
Control, especially for high school and below is the key and where I think we are failing. A lot of these things happen because one official, then a crew, then an association let them happen. Start handing out Ts like it is next Wednesday and I bet they would stop all the BS. As much of it at least.

Adam Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:57am
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Originally Posted by tomegun
Control, especially for high school and below is the key and where I think we are failing. A lot of these things happen because one official, then a crew, then an association let them happen. Start handing out Ts like it is next Wednesday and I bet they would stop all the BS. As much of it at least.
Last year was my first year in this association, and my first year doing the boys AAU league this happened in. I had a coach T in three straight games. One ran right through a warning. The "JC" scream. And an AC coach stood up to complain along with his HC when I called their star athlete for a travel right before he got fouled.
Things went much more smoothly after that.

Junker Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:21am
Just the head coach is enough to me. I'd make sure sometime soon after that he got a message from me or my partners that he better maintain control of his bench.

jer166 Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:37am
IMO the head coach call was a good one. If there is a problem with the message getting through & the AC continues then he gets one. Game management & control are the desirable outcomes so I believe initially one is better than two.

Adam Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:44am
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Originally Posted by Junker
Just the head coach is enough to me. I'd make sure sometime soon after that he got a message from me or my partners that he better maintain control of his bench.
They were perfect angels the rest of the game. They got the message. :)

Mark Padgett Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by FrankHtown
Wait a minute... If they had screamed "Bhudda"...or "Confuscious" or "Ghandi" would you have T'd them up??
In this age of PC, it behooves you to consider everyone's feelings.
Does that include worshipers at the Church of Elvis and/or the Church of Monday Night Football? :confused:

I think that if a coach yelled "Monday Night Football" at a call, it might be OK. :)

Dan_ref Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by FrankHtown
Wait a minute... If they had screamed "Bhudda"...or "Confuscious" or "Ghandi" would you have T'd them up??
Here's a good question...if they scream "God is great!" while putting on a large vest do you T them before you dive under the bleachers?

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Jurassic Referee Fri Oct 26, 2007 03:44pm
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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
Here's a good question...if they scream "God is great!" while putting on a large vest do you T them before you dive under the bleachers?

http://www.ahajokes.com/cartoon/training.jpg
I demand that this post be deleted. It's offensive to Afghanistan suicide bombers.

M&M Guy Fri Oct 26, 2007 03:47pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
I demand that this post be deleted. It's offensive to Afghanistan suicide bombers.
How many are left to complain?

(Oops, now I've done it.)

Adam Fri Oct 26, 2007 03:55pm
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Originally Posted by FrankHtown
Wait a minute... If they had screamed "Bhudda"...or "Confuscious" or "Ghandi" would you have T'd them up??
;)
Long answer?

No.

Adam Fri Oct 26, 2007 03:56pm
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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
How many are left to complain?

(Oops, now I've done it.)
Whom do I complain to about all this off-topic discussion in my thread?


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