Except Colorado - citation provided previously. Could name more. I reffed in several states. Another post stated Iowa is the same. Who is stating unfounded bogus bull$hit now?

Thanks for the welcome. The vast majority have been perfectly nice and willing to hear other views. I made a couple misstatements which I apologized for and corrected. Fully aware not all states make the same interps, but others should not poo-poo comments that "just because its not stated in the NFHS manual" it is utter BS. WRONG. For example, MO, KS, TX all only T once for illegal uniforms. I guess JR thinks that is BS as well.

The folks here seem open minded and helpful.

Again, it's not me. I am explaining the KS state position, which I enforce. Differentiate between the two please.

Don't know who OS is/was, but don't sully my name with an obvious $hit disturber of the past. I'm here for the help and to contribute when appropriate. Thanks.

Thanks for the compliment. Just trying to get help and give help here as time permits.

Seriously KS you are getting ripped up for no good reason.....tends to happen at times on this board, certain people believe that their interpretations are the only ones that matter in every state (even those they have never worked)....no need to defend yourself...

Funny! Don't know who OS is and don't care. Here to get help and give help. When someone uses inflamatory profane language to me I either ignore from that point on or try to debate - giving the benefit. I have also freely admitted a couple mistakes. If JR doesn't want to be civil then that's his issue. I can imagine the stress he's under being perfect.

It's apparent you didn't even read the post where Iowa was mentioned.
1. Iowa has only issued a directive regarding kneeling. Kneeling. Kneeling only. And that was girls only, since the boys' coaches don't even get the coaching box.

I'm not even sure if they still hold to it, since I've been in Colorado now for a couple of years.

2. More importantly, Colorado does not do it the way you say we do. Read my previous post.

So, the KS state position is that a coach is only coaching if they're speaking? Observing and thinking are not normally associatiated with coaching? Seems to me you may be misunderstanding what the position really is.

Let me share something with both of you......

It's not "our" interpretations. It's the NFHS and NCAA's interpretations. We just cite those NFHS and NCAA interpretations. We also cite their recommended mechanics. If someone wants to pull a hissy-fit because someone else showed them that they were completely <b>WRONG</b> according to what is plainly written in the rules, case or mechanics book, too damn bad. It's the same for everybody on this forum, and that includes myself. If you're going to post utter nonsense, you <b>will</b> hear about it.

If a rule is unique to one state only, then post that as such. Don't try to say that what is written in the rule book is <b>wrong</b> because their state has an exception.

Mean ol' Jurassic.

As posted previously, here is verbatim from the most recent Kansas State publication "2007-2008 Basketball Announcements".

COACHING BOX
"The head coach may:

1. Stand to instruct (coach) then,
2. Sit down
3. Not kneel, squat, pace or stand during a live ball."

Pretty clear to me how they define "coaching".

Here's what I could find on Iowa's website. The Boys' and Girls' associations (yes, we have 2 here) are both going to this rule, or something very similar. I'm not a fan of this rule, but I do as the state says. This is from a memo we got earlier this season, I'll know more after I hit our state meeting here in the next couple of weeks.

"In summary, the Board approved adopting the “seat belt” bench decorum rule which is currently utilized in the boy’s game in Iowa, with two modifications. First, coaches will be allowed to stand and confer with a player(s) whenever the clock is not running. Second, the coach may rise to congratulate a disqualified player, and walk the confines of the team bench to select a replacement."

Ok JR, educate me. Show me where the NFHS explicitly states a head coach may stand the entire game (barring a T) when remaining perfectly silent and not uttering word or moving. It states he may only stand "for the purpose of coaching his/her team". Now if you think standing = kneeling, or standing = sitting on the floor, then we agree to disagree. If you think "coaching his team" is standing like a statue for 8 minutes without uttering a word, then we disagree on that as well.

Ask your self why would the NFHS put qualitative language in the rule like "for the purpose of coaching his team" if they meant to allow him to stand 32 minutes? What other purpose would a head coach have to stand in the box according to you - if EVERYTHING he does is "coaching"?

Hmmmmmm. Before you state someone is wrong, or his state is the only one clarifying the rule, show definitive proof. Have a nice day.

I will tell you that PA does not interpret the coaching box activity the same as Kansas. Here, coaches are permitted to stand in the box as long as they want, observing the play on the court. As long as they stay in their box and are not chirping at the refs, they are okay. If they begin to stray or attempt to influence any calls by a ref, they will be seated via a "T".

And this dude is not OS, because we don't "hate" him yet.