The 10 Rules of Officiating

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Disagree with your motto.

I've gone for help on OOB calls I was not sure of. Also if action under the basket on a shooting foul caused me to not know if the ball went in or not.

Just two examples of preferring indecision allowing me to go to my crew for help.

Referee's motto: Let's get it right as a crew.

That's not the kind of "wrong" or "indecisive" he's referring to. Calling the OOB decisively, and then looking decisively at your partners to help you get it right is fine. Indecisive is weak whistle, sloppy mechanics, debating in your mind before signalling -- you know, like me!

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

That's not the kind of "wrong" or "indecisive" he's referring to. Calling the OOB decisively, and then looking decisively at your partners to help you get it right is fine. Indecisive is weak whistle, sloppy mechanics, debating in your mind before signalling -- you know, like me!

I wish you people in the upper lefthand corner of the country would make up your mind.

Is it a joke or not?

[BillyMac]

From Mark Padgett: "I always felt that if you want to work for free, go volunteer somewhere."

I do. Every year I officiate at the Special Olympics Unified Games, for free. Also, when assigned, I officiate the Doc Hurley Classic Scholarship Tournament (Hartford, CT), also for free. I also officiate, again for free, as many scrimmages, both preseason and pretournment, as I can fit into my schedule. I don't mind giving back to the sport that I have loved for over 40 years.

I know that I should "lighten up", but this anti-overtime sentiment, whether it's done in jest, or for real, really "yanks my chain", especially when nonofficials hear about it.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I do. Every year I officiate at the Special Olympics Unified Games, for free. Also, when assigned, I officiate the Doc Hurley Classic Scholarship Tournament (Hartford, CT), also for free. I also officiate, again for free, as many scrimmages, both preseason and pretournment, as I can fit into my schedule. I don't mind giving back to the sport that I have loved for over 40 years.

Doc Hurley's a great tournament. Didn't realize that you Central CT guys worked it for free, but it's probably worth the experience of getting to call that good of a game in the Civic Center. I'll never forget when I went along with my school's varsity team in 2000.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

I wish you people in the upper lefthand corner of the country would make up your mind.

Is it a joke or not?

First you say he's wrong, now you accuse us of being indecisive. Is this some kind of joke?!?

Actually, I'm not sure why he said it was a joke. He says it seriously, and with some good illustrations to help understand the principle. And really, for such a dweeb, he's got a pretty good principle, don't you think?

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

First you say he's wrong, now you accuse us of being indecisive. Is this some kind of joke?!?

Actually, I'm not sure why he said it was a joke. He says it seriously, and with some good illustrations to help understand the principle. And really, for such a dweeb, he's got a pretty good principle, don't you think?

I already said I disagree with this principle.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

I already said I disagree with this principle.

I thought perhaps after I'd explicated the vocabulary as Mark intended it, you'd see it differently.

Of course, the crew should get it right all the time. But that's not always going to happen. Sometimes, they're gonna get it wrong. But there should never be any waffling or hedging or debating. Discussion when there's a disagreement isn't the same as indecisiveness.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

I thought perhaps after I'd explicated the vocabulary as Mark intended it, you'd see it differently.

Of course, the crew should get it right all the time. But that's not always going to happen. Sometimes, they're gonna get it wrong. But there should never be any waffling or hedging or debating. Discussion when there's a disagreement isn't the same as indecisiveness.

Now you want to argue the semantics of what you thought Mark might have meant, which he claims is a joke anyway.

One more time then I'm done: it's OK - rarely - to be unsure about what the final decision should be. Some of us would use the word 'indecisive' to describe that case. Those same people would not agree with you or Mark that we are *never* indecisive.

That's all.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Now you want to argue the semantics of what you thought Mark might have meant, which he claims is a joke anyway.

One more time then I'm done: it's OK - rarely - to be unsure about what the final decision should be. Some of us would use the word 'indecisive' to describe that case. Those same people would not agree with you or Mark that we are *never* indecisive.

That's all.

It's not an argument in the sense of any hostility. I wasn't sure what you were disagreeing with, and working on the semantics is one way to find that out. Now, I see your point, which I didn't before.

And by the way, PADGETT, where the heck are you when I'm trying to defend you? Sheez, he finds his meds and goes to sleep just when he's got the pot boiling...