Flagrant?

[Mark Dexter]

NOT a good night last night.

Four rec ball games. I called four techs and two intentionals.

Two of the T's were part of a double technical foul. A1 drives in for the shot. B1 fouls A1. A2 is very unhappy about the foul and pushes B1. B1 then turns around and pushes A2. Double technical - we finally get everything sorted out and A1 gets his 2 shots.

My question: would any of you consider this a flagrant foul, as in a fighting situation? It was borderline, but in shoving matches, I've often seen regular technicals in situations like this.

[BktBallRef]

Probably not, unless it escalated from there.

[mick]

Mark,
I agree with Tony.
It doesn't sound like either act was meant to maim, unless there was a push to the head or something similar.
mick

[daves]

It would be border line for me. I guess I would have to be there. If we can call a flagrant foul for fighting when players square off with fists doubled up but no punches are thrown shouldn't it be flagrant if players actually get into a shoving match?

[mick]

Originally posted by daves
If we can call a flagrant foul for fighting when players square off with fists doubled up but no punches are thrown shouldn't it be flagrant if players actually get into a shoving match?

daves,
I can't find that rule.
mick

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by daves
It would be border line for me. I guess I would have to be there. If we can call a flagrant foul for fighting when players square off with fists doubled up but no punches are thrown shouldn't it be flagrant if players actually get into a shoving match?

Why would you rule that the players were fighting if they just squared off and no punches were thrown?

[paulis]

Rec league? Adult ball? See ya!!

[mick]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

Why would you rule that the players were fighting if they just squared off and no punches were thrown?

Tony,
I think the book has too many words.

POE 4 - The measuring up of an opponent (tagging) is handchecking.

mick