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Old Sun Sep 30, 2007, 11:26am
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1) Okay -- STFU.

2) We've told you before the difference between "dead ball" and "clock running". Are you even trying to learn?

3) Please stop the name calling. I can't moderate others when you engage (and start) the poor behavior.
We are taking about refereeing, why all the hate, why all the criticism? It's because other forum members think they are above the law, above criticism. That they can not be wrong, or that others if wrong should be hated and account deleted because they interpret a ruling different or misunderstand a ruling. Goodness gracious, I can't be the first person in America that has interpret a ruling wrong or misapplied a ruling. It's not the end of the world if you kick a call. To often I hear hate coming from this professional official site. This forum is not setup for all officials, it is setup for certain officials. Not everyone is welcome.

I am sorry for #3, I have no idea what you're talking about on #2. I am disgraced for #1 because it shows your professionalism. I really wish the world was just one race so that we can all think alike and all get alone. Unfortunately, that is not the country we live in. I have told you before and i will tell you again. If you want to terminate my account, go right ahead. I'm not going to stop officiating because you don't like me, or accept me. Do what you feel is the right thing to do for your lilly white website here. I now know for sure that decent officials don't frequent this forum and now i know why. I will leave you with this, it's hard to try and tell someone to obey the rules when you don't obey them yourself.
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Old Sun Sep 30, 2007, 11:41am
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We are taking about refereeing, why all the hate, why all the criticism? It's because other forum members think they are above the law, above criticism. That they can not be wrong, or that others if wrong should be hated and account deleted because they interpret a ruling different or misunderstand a ruling. Goodness gracious, I can't be the first person in America that has interpret a ruling wrong or misapplied a ruling. It's not the end of the world if you kick a call. To often I hear hate coming from this professional official site. This forum is not setup for all officials, it is setup for certain officials. Not everyone is welcome.
You don't even know the definition of hate, so quit throwing it around like it's some sort of defense of your "opinions."

And again, no one is hounding you because you got a rule wrong. I'm sure you could go back and find quite a few times I've missed a rule or interpretation. If not, I could provide you some examples if I had the time.

The problem is, as Bob said, you've been shown the dead ball/live ball rule before. It's been explained that a personal foul cannot be called during a dead ball, including the short window from when the ball passes through the net and the ball is at the disposal of the non-scoring team. It has nothing to do with whether or not the clock is stopped, as you have plenty of live ball situations when the clock is stopped.

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I really wish the world was just one race so that we can all think alike and all get alone.
Assuming you meant "along" rather than "alone," (no, you can't blame the keyboard, the "e" key isn't close enough to the "g" key to try this), you can't possibly be serious. This may be the absolute most stupid thing you've ever posted.

Note, I'm not calling you stupid here. Just what you posted.
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Old Sun Sep 30, 2007, 02:38pm
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I really wish the world was just one race so that we can all think alike and all get alone. Unfortunately, that is not the country we live in.

Do what you feel is the right thing to do for your lilly white website here. I now know for sure that decent officials don't frequent this forum and now i know why.
Do we really have to put up with being labeled racists because we disagree with his nonsense?
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Old Sun Sep 30, 2007, 06:14pm
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About time.

See ya.
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Old Sun Sep 30, 2007, 06:33pm
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I really wish the world was just one race so that we can all think alike and all get alone. Unfortunately, that is not the country we live in.
This is another thing. You keep bringing race into the discussion. Until you brought it up, no one knew who was what race. When this (race) has been brought up by other posters, they have had their account suspended / terminated. I supported that decision, and I'd support it happening again.
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Old Mon Oct 01, 2007, 03:20pm
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I really wish the world was just one race so that we can all think alike and all get alone. Unfortunately, that is not the country we live in. I have told you before and i will tell you again. If you want to terminate my account, go right ahead. I'm not going to stop officiating because you don't like me, or accept me. Do what you feel is the right thing to do for your lilly white website here. I now know for sure that decent officials don't frequent this forum and now i know why. I will leave you with this, it's hard to try and tell someone to obey the rules when you don't obey them yourself.

How outrageous can you get! Until this post, I don't think I had even seen any indication of what race you were. I had never assumed you were a minority. It never crossed my mind.

The only thing I did know is that you have repeatedly made a fool of yourself with unwaivering insistence in erroneous interpretations and foolish ideas.


Your claim of racism requires that others know or think that you're not "lily white". I didn't and I'm sure many (perhaps all) others didn't....and for that matter, I still don't "know". Bogus arguments and accusations like yours make claims against real racism more difficult to address.

There are MANY officials that are not "lily white" who frequent this board and make positive and useful contributions. Aside from those that I personally know or 1 or 2 other people who have stated thier race, I don't even know what anyone's race is...and I don't care.

Sure racism exists...and it exists in officiating...but this is most certainly NOT one of those cases.
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