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Mark Dexter Fri Sep 28, 2007 08:52pm

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Originally Posted by Stat-Man
After the game, I let the other team's assistant coach know she was risking a T by removing the book at home games. She didn't seem to care one way or another.

Pretty sure that's only for an NCAA game.

Nevadaref Fri Sep 28, 2007 09:27pm

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After the game, I let the other team's assistant coach know she was risking a T by removing the book at home games. She didn't seem to care one way or another.
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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Pretty sure that's only for an NCAA game.

While the NFHS does have a rule on this, a penalty of any kind has never been specified. It would have to be a use of 2-3. ;)

The last sentence of 2-11-11 says, "The official scorebook shall remain at the scorer's table throughout the game, including all intermissions."

NCAA rules do specify that removal of the scorebook is a technical foul.

Stat-Man Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:34pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Pretty sure that's only for an NCAA game.

What is the penalty in NF then for violating 2-11-11 "The official scorebook shall remain at the scorers table throughout the game, including all intermissions." ?

just another ref Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:26am

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Originally Posted by Stat-Man
What is the penalty in NF then for violating 2-11-11 "The official scorebook shall remain at the scorers table throughout the game, including all intermissions." ?

I think I missed a test question on this one: Situation: During halftime intermission, home coach takes the official scorebook into the locker room. Ruling: Technical foul.

I put true. oops

If the book says something shall be, doesn't it indicate consequences if otherwise happens?

Apparently, since this is listed under scorer's duties, it is supposed to be understood that the scorer should take whatever action necessary to insure that the book stays at the table. But, in the real world, many scorekeepers are not aware that this is in the book. So when they come back from the bathroom and say, "Where's the book?" "Oh, the coach took it." They merely shrug. Then when the officials see the coach return to the floor carrying the book, what can they do? "Hey, coach, you're not supposed to take the book."

Kinda like WWF. No hitting with the closed fist. But when they do it.......
(and they do it, over and over)

Mark Dexter Sat Sep 29, 2007 09:20am

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Originally Posted by Stat-Man
What is the penalty in NF then for violating 2-11-11 "The official scorebook shall remain at the scorers table throughout the game, including all intermissions." ?

Fifty lashes with a wet noodle to the scorekeeper for allowing the book to be removed.

Stat-Man Sat Sep 29, 2007 09:51am

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
Fifty lashes with a wet noodle to the scorekeeper for allowing the book to be removed.

That would be worth the price of admissions to see :D

Would anyone consider making the visitor's book official if it was moved or not back at the table by the time the 3rd quarter is ready?

Mark Padgett Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:48am

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Originally Posted by just another ref
Kinda like WWF. No hitting with the closed fist. But when they do it.......
(and they do it, over and over)

Yeah - I see squirrels hit chipmunks all the time at World Wildlife Fund dinners. Since you used the term WWF, I guess you're not up-to-date on your lawsuits. ;)

just another ref Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:49am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
I guess you're not up-to-date on your lawsuits. ;)


No, I would never wear a suit like a lawyer. I prefer t-shirts with no sleeves.


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