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bigbeardedbryan Mon Sep 24, 2007 04:27pm

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Originally Posted by TimTaylor
I agree, ARS is a great rules study tool, but it's more than that. The indexed search capability is pretty useful as well. The 2007-2008 version isn't released yet, but I expect it will be in the next few weeks.......well worth the investment IMHO.

A look at the front page makes me wonder if there will be any further versions released, meaning I'm screwed.

"We appreciate your patience, but the delay was with the National Federation as they were trying to decide whether to continue their relationship with us. The concern was whether our software competed with their new online testing they have developed that mirrors what we have been providing for the last 15 years. While we certainly wished they would have worked with us and believe many of the features were derived from our software, we certainly wish them the best as they try to improve officiating throughout high schools in the United States. So after several discussions, it was determined that we would offer 2007 football, soccer, and basketball. These will be the last versions we offer before we close up shop. We certainly appreciate all the patronage and relationships we have developed over the years, and will miss the contact with many of you we have come to know. Best of luck to you all in your support of high school athletics!" -the ARS home page

refnrev Mon Sep 24, 2007 08:33pm

I've had it about a week, but haven't really looked at it because of all my soccer games. How does it look this year?

Nevadaref Mon Sep 24, 2007 08:38pm

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I'm not sure what CRS disease is
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
I used to know what it is, but I've forgotten. ;)

Good one, Bob! :)

Ray,
CRS = Can't Remember S*#& ;)

Back In The Saddle Mon Sep 24, 2007 09:42pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
Quote:
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I'm not sure what CRS disease is
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Good one, Bob! :)

Ray,
CRS = Can't Remember S*#& ;)

I probably knew that once :D

Back In The Saddle Mon Sep 24, 2007 09:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbeardedbryan
A look at the front page makes me wonder if there will be any further versions released, meaning I'm screwed.

"We appreciate your patience, but the delay was with the National Federation as they were trying to decide whether to continue their relationship with us. The concern was whether our software competed with their new online testing they have developed that mirrors what we have been providing for the last 15 years. While we certainly wished they would have worked with us and believe many of the features were derived from our software, we certainly wish them the best as they try to improve officiating throughout high schools in the United States. So after several discussions, it was determined that we would offer 2007 football, soccer, and basketball. These will be the last versions we offer before we close up shop. We certainly appreciate all the patronage and relationships we have developed over the years, and will miss the contact with many of you we have come to know. Best of luck to you all in your support of high school athletics!" -the ARS home page

I guess I should have actually read the home page. :( Does anybody know what this testing is they mention? I'm not aware of any testing available at the NFHS site.

Trooper Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:53pm

i didnt realize asking would cause such an uproar.....

Mark Padgett Tue Sep 25, 2007 02:05pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
Does anybody know what this testing is they mention? I'm not aware of any testing available at the NFHS site.

The testing on the NF site will be relatively small. Here's their theory - if a small quiz is a quizzical, what's a small test? :rolleyes:

Dan_ref Tue Sep 25, 2007 02:12pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
The testing on the NF site will be relatively small. Here's their theory - if a small quiz is a quizzical, what's a small test? :rolleyes:

If I had a nickel for everytime you told that joke...

http://www.pennies.com/WarNickels.JPG

Jurassic Referee Tue Sep 25, 2007 02:50pm

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Originally Posted by Trooper
i didnt realize asking would cause such an uproar.....

No uproar at all. Just telling you what anyone should expect if they want to try and get a copy here of this year's NFHS exam and/or answers before all states have finished writing it. It's simply not ethical and could be judged as a means of cheating.

Hopefully, that wasn't your intent, was it?

Mark Padgett Tue Sep 25, 2007 02:52pm

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
If I had a nickel for everytime you told that joke...

http://www.pennies.com/WarNickels.JPG

Hey - at least I didn't post a graphic. EEUUUWWW! :p

Andy Tue Sep 25, 2007 02:54pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
( Does anybody know what this testing is they mention? I'm not aware of any testing available at the NFHS site.

NFHS has partnered with another company to provide all of the sports officials testing online. I believe that it is only rolling out to a few states this year.

Here in AZ, football and volleyball officials had to take their tests online this year. 50 questions, all true-false. Still the same crappy questions that have appeared on past exams.

My understanding is that there is a database of about 1000 questions and each official that logs into the testing site gets a random set of 50. From all of the VB officials that I have spoken with since the testing closed last week, it seems that we all got about 5 of the same questions, and a sampling of others. It also allows you an allotted amount of time to complete the test, for us it was 6 hours. So you can do ten questions, take a break, do 10 more, come back and finish the next day, whatever...the clock is only running while you are signed into the test.

Adam Tue Sep 25, 2007 04:07pm

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Originally Posted by Trooper
i didnt realize asking would cause such an uproar.....

Ah, don't take it too personal. JR is just working on his roar.

bigbeardedbryan Wed Sep 26, 2007 09:16pm

Just as an update, either I can't read or they changed their minds (or perhaps I misunderstood the way they're numbering years)--there is now a basketball program available from ARS.

Thanks for the recommendation, ordering now.

TimTaylor Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:10pm

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Originally Posted by bigbeardedbryan
Just as an update, either I can't read or they changed their minds (or perhaps I misunderstood the way they're numbering years)--there is now a basketball program available from ARS.

Thanks for the recommendation, ordering now.

I just purchased & downloaded the new version.

From what it says on the ARS site, Human Kinetics/ASEP has canceled the contract they had with NFHS to develop the training/ online testing program, but NFHS still isn't talking to ARS, so not sure what NFHS is going to do at this point.....guess we'll find out eventually. The whole thing sounds like a major "charlie foxtrot" to me.........

Camron Rust Thu Sep 27, 2007 03:48pm

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Originally Posted by TimTaylor
I just purchased & downloaded the new version.

From what it says on the ARS site, Human Kinetics/ASEP has canceled the contract they had with NFHS to develop the training/ online testing program, but NFHS still isn't talking to ARS, so not sure what NFHS is going to do at this point.....guess we'll find out eventually. The whole thing sounds like a major "charlie foxtrot" to me.........

Hmmm... I wonder if the ASEP - NFHS relationship is faltering due to the fact that many states officials organizations decided that $75/official was excessive for what was offered. Since, Oregon now requires that all officials working post season games take the ASEP course or an approved equivalent, the state officials organization for Oregon created a substitute and charged $10 for it to cover the costs of running it.


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