any word on the 208 exam
 

does any body know about the 2008 exam..i guess i needed to clarify what i wrote...has it come out and is it posted yet...

Yes. It's 100 questions, true-false.

Why are you asking?

And undoubtedly a couple of them will be impenetrably ambiguous.

If you want a copy of the 208 exam, just ask Jurassic.

And specify A.D. or B.C.

Message to JR:

Please note that Mark asked you and not me. :D :p

MTD, Sr.

Yeah but I'll bet you still have your rule book from that year! :D

I haven't seen the actual exam itself, but a little birdie told me that if you just study the rule book, case book and official's manual, you won't have any problems at all. But as I say, I haven't actually seen it....

...and it's likely in his attic.

The exam is out. I can also guarantee you that it <b>won't</b> be posted on this site. Why? Because that would be nothing but a blatant aid to cheating. Real officials don't cheat. Most states usually seem to write the exam some time in November while some others don't write until December. Having advance knowledge of what the questions are, let alone the answers, means that any individual getting that information is defeating the whole idea of having an exam. To be quite blunt, again, it is nothing but cheating.

Most states seem to have some kind of requirement that officials study and know the rules of a particular sport, and thus can be tested to see if they actually do so. Passing the test with certain minimum marks also seems to be a prerequisite in most states to becoming certified, to advance to higher ratings and also to qualify for state playoffs.

Unfortunately, every year around this time, a bunch of low-life scumballs (not you, Trooper. I'm sure that you'd never cheat) show up here with the sole intention of finding someone with the FED exam so that don't have to study and do the work needed to become better officials. And a sad fact of life is that there are other low-life scumballs out there who are willing to send the exam to them. There's no way that we can stop these low-life scumballs from their cheating ways (actually there is if we can find out where they come from:) ), but we can certainly try to drive them underground and get them to cheat somewhere else. It's kind of amazing too that these particular posters only show up on this site to get the exam or the answers; we never see them post anything else again because they really aren't interested in doing any of the work needed to actually learn the rules, only in cheating so that they don't have to learn those rules. They're only cheating themselves, but that doesn't seem to matter to them.

If anyone feels that any of the above is maybe a little over the top, may I suggest that you contact your state governing body and get their view on officials getting and sharing the current year's NFHS exam or answers before it's scheduled to be written in their state. Aamof, just post your city and state and I'll get the answer for you. It's real easy to do. And btw, just because one state holds it's exam on a certain date doesn't mean that all states have held their exam by that date. Anyone posting exam answers here might be doing so before everybody has written their local exam.

Individual exam questions are certainly welcome here for discussion. Posting the complete current exam or the answers to all exam questions isn't. Anybody doing so best be prepared for what might be called a rather unfriendly reception.

Does that give you all the info needed to answer your questions, Trooper?

And in other news, the Sun rose today over the eastern horizon. :D

(Anybody not see Jurassic's post coming a mile away? :p )

Next time JR should just copy and paste this thread anytime someone says anything about the test in the future. It might save him some time. ;)

Peace

He stores it in MTD's attic behind the J Dallas Shirley monuments. Dusting it off just a bit early this year I see.

Usually you don't see requests for the exam this early either.

Not a bad idea, really. I could just add a few <i>mofo</i>'s where needed. ;)

C'mon JR, tell us how you really feel.

Rut, I thought the reply was already on JR's hard drive in a word document. He just copied and pasted it here. IMO, It is similar every year to those who ask for the exam on a year basis.

Okay, I've read the entire thread, and need to summarize and clarify. Are you saying Jurassic has the answers to the 2008 NFHS exam hidden on a dusty hard drive in MTD's attic?

:eek: Nah, I wouldn't put JR out like that. Just to further clarify, I'm saying JR have the yearly response to those seeking the exam on his hard drive in MTD's attic;)

Actually Jurassic does have the 2008 NFHS Part 1 exam and the answer sheet for it in a drawer about 3 feet from me. Wrote it a coupla weeks ago and marked my own. Got lucky and passed. My association won't be writing it for another month or so though.

It ain't getting posted here by me either.:)

How about old exams?
 

I am preparing to take the NFHS exam for the first time (trying to work up from the rec league ranks). Is it kosher to ask for a copy of an old NFHS exam? I don't care about the answers, that's my job; I just want to see how we will be tested. (If it's similar to the grammar atrocities they commit on the baseball exams, I guess I won't be surprised.)

That is entirely acceptable.

I find that the questions are really not as bad as some people make them out to be. More often than not, people that get a few wrong blame the question rather than themselves when they often read info info into the question that was not part of the question.

With that in mind, I would appreciate a copy of a 2007 or 2006 exam if anyone has one. Thanks in advance!

If you don't mind spending a buck or two, I've used this before and liked it.

BITS, I have to believe that you meant to post a link to ARS with that post. ;)

Blame it on CRS disease! :D

Where is Trooper?
 

No replies from Trooper yet... I wonder why?

I'm not sure what CRS disease is, but it probably goes nicely with my OCD and ADD :D

And yes, the link, which is probably still on my clipboard of my computer at home, is http://www.rules-study.com/

I used to know what it is, but I've forgotten. ;)

I agree, ARS is a great rules study tool, but it's more than that. The indexed search capability is pretty useful as well. The 2007-2008 version isn't released yet, but I expect it will be in the next few weeks.......well worth the investment IMHO.

LHSAA Study Guide
 

http://www.lhsaa.org/officials/manua...StudyGuide.pdf


I haven't looked at all this yet this year, but I'm guessing it is last year's guide updated for this year's changes, maybe?

It is a list of t/f test type questions which will make you read your books.

In the past there were some questions which I considered poorly written, a few to the point of being unanswerable.

A look at the front page makes me wonder if there will be any further versions released, meaning I'm screwed.

"We appreciate your patience, but the delay was with the National Federation as they were trying to decide whether to continue their relationship with us. The concern was whether our software competed with their new online testing they have developed that mirrors what we have been providing for the last 15 years. While we certainly wished they would have worked with us and believe many of the features were derived from our software, we certainly wish them the best as they try to improve officiating throughout high schools in the United States. So after several discussions, it was determined that we would offer 2007 football, soccer, and basketball. These will be the last versions we offer before we close up shop. We certainly appreciate all the patronage and relationships we have developed over the years, and will miss the contact with many of you we have come to know. Best of luck to you all in your support of high school athletics!" -the ARS home page

I've had it about a week, but haven't really looked at it because of all my soccer games. How does it look this year?

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Good one, Bob! :)

Ray,
CRS = Can't Remember S*#& ;)

I probably knew that once :D

I guess I should have actually read the home page. :( Does anybody know what this testing is they mention? I'm not aware of any testing available at the NFHS site.

i didnt realize asking would cause such an uproar.....

The testing on the NF site will be relatively small. Here's their theory - if a small quiz is a quizzical, what's a small test? :rolleyes:

If I had a nickel for everytime you told that joke...

http://www.pennies.com/WarNickels.JPG

No uproar at all. Just telling you what anyone should expect if they want to try and get a copy here of this year's NFHS exam and/or answers before all states have finished writing it. It's simply not ethical and could be judged as a means of cheating.

Hopefully, that wasn't your intent, was it?

Hey - at least I didn't post a graphic. EEUUUWWW! :p

NFHS has partnered with another company to provide all of the sports officials testing online. I believe that it is only rolling out to a few states this year.

Here in AZ, football and volleyball officials had to take their tests online this year. 50 questions, all true-false. Still the same crappy questions that have appeared on past exams.

My understanding is that there is a database of about 1000 questions and each official that logs into the testing site gets a random set of 50. From all of the VB officials that I have spoken with since the testing closed last week, it seems that we all got about 5 of the same questions, and a sampling of others. It also allows you an allotted amount of time to complete the test, for us it was 6 hours. So you can do ten questions, take a break, do 10 more, come back and finish the next day, whatever...the clock is only running while you are signed into the test.

Ah, don't take it too personal. JR is just working on his roar.

Just as an update, either I can't read or they changed their minds (or perhaps I misunderstood the way they're numbering years)--there is now a basketball program available from ARS.

Thanks for the recommendation, ordering now.

I just purchased & downloaded the new version.

From what it says on the ARS site, Human Kinetics/ASEP has canceled the contract they had with NFHS to develop the training/ online testing program, but NFHS still isn't talking to ARS, so not sure what NFHS is going to do at this point.....guess we'll find out eventually. The whole thing sounds like a major "charlie foxtrot" to me.........

Hmmm... I wonder if the ASEP - NFHS relationship is faltering due to the fact that many states officials organizations decided that $75/official was excessive for what was offered. Since, Oregon now requires that all officials working post season games take the ASEP course or an approved equivalent, the state officials organization for Oregon created a substitute and charged $10 for it to cover the costs of running it.

Might be part of it...wouldn't surprise me if it was. This info is from the NFHS web site...

Human Kinetics/American Sport Education Program (ASEP) canceled the NFHS Officials Education Program contract that was scheduled for renewal in April. ASEP shared that the decision was based on poor sales over the past three years and little interest in organizational commitments for the future. The NFHS and ASEP will be working together to assist those states that had contracts with ASEP for this program. The courses posted are still excellent training and educational resources and appropriate for professional development.