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Old Fri Sep 14, 2007, 07:24am
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The only posted "exceptions" I have found from TASO are as follows but I am not certain this is current:

TASO exceptions to National Federation Mechanics:
1. coaching box ( I believe TX has a 6 foot box)
2. foul reporting area (clear of all players, above the free throw line, outside of three point arc)
3. Free Throw Coverage: observe opposite lane lines
4. "Bird Dogging" fouls (pointing to offender) is optional (actually we are requested not to bird dog)
5. Lead does not administer sideline throwins below free throw line extended (trail administers all side line throwins)
6. Court Positioning on Time Outs - 30 sec TO- top of key
60 sec TO - opposite free throw lane blocks.
(however I believe this was changned this year to new NFHS changes)
7. Switch only on shooting fouls
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Old Fri Sep 14, 2007, 07:57am
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TASO exceptions to National Federation Mechanics:
1. coaching box ( I believe TX has a 6 foot box)
Technically, this is not an exception to NFHS rules. NFHS allows states to choose whether they will utilize the coaching box. It's a "state adoption", but it is in the rules.

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3. Free Throw Coverage: observe opposite lane lines
4. "Bird Dogging" fouls (pointing to offender) is optional (actually we are requested not to bird dog)
Both of these are the NFHS mechanic, aren't they?
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Old Fri Sep 14, 2007, 08:10am
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Both of these are the NFHS mechanic, aren't they? [/quote]

I believe the exception is regarding which positions the Trail vs Lead are watching. This states Trail would watch the lane opposite his postion on the court and the Lead would watch the lane opposite his position, rather than the specific assignment that NFHS states.
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Old Fri Sep 14, 2007, 08:52am
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This states Trail would watch the lane opposite his postion on the court and the Lead would watch the lane opposite his position, rather than the specific assignment that NFHS states.
My point is that I believe those are the specific assignment that NFHS states. If I'm wrong, someone will correct me; but I'm pretty sure that in HS, each official watches the lane line opposite from him/her. In NCAA, each official watches the lane line closer to him/her.

Just to clarify. . . we're talking about watching the lane line for free throw violations, right? (I probably should've asked that sooner)
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Old Fri Sep 14, 2007, 08:56am
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My understanding is that the trail (or center) watches the top spot closest to him/her and top two positions on the opposite lane line. The lead watches the bottom spot on the closer line and the bottom two on the opposite line. Am I wrong?
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Old Fri Sep 14, 2007, 09:10am
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My understanding is that the trail (or center) watches the top spot closest to him/her and top two positions on the opposite lane line. The lead watches the bottom spot on the closer line and the bottom two on the opposite line. Am I wrong?
Hmmm -- I thought it was "T has the FT shooter and the top two opposite. L has closest player an entire opposite."

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Question: What does it mean when it states "Up to three separate five-second counts may occur on the same ball handler, holding, dribbling, and holding."?
A player in control of the ball may hold it for five (well, 4.999999) seconds without a violation being called. the player may then dribble for 5 seconds without a violation being called. The player may then again hold the ball for 5 seconds without a violation being called.
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Old Fri Sep 14, 2007, 09:30am
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[QUOTE=bob jenkins]Hmmm -- I thought it was "T has the FT shooter and the top two opposite. L has closest player an entire opposite."

You're correct.
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Old Fri Sep 14, 2007, 10:15am
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My point is that I believe those are the specific assignment that NFHS states. If I'm wrong, someone will correct me; but I'm pretty sure that in HS, each official watches the lane line opposite from him/her. In NCAA, each official watches the lane line closer to him/her.

Just to clarify. . . we're talking about watching the lane line for free throw violations, right? (I probably should've asked that sooner)
Correct Scrapper, we are talking lane violations. However, I am not sure I am clear on your first point. Yes the NFHS has stated which positions on opposite lanes will be watched by which official. I am stating that the TASO exception now has the official watching ALL the lane positions opposite him only, instead of just the ones stated by the NFHS. Are we saying the same thing? I do not have my book to quote which postions each official observes in the lane, but I do know it is not ALL opposite lanes only. Would you agree with that?
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Old Fri Sep 14, 2007, 10:34am
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I am stating that the TASO exception now has the official watching ALL the lane positions opposite him only, instead of just the ones stated by the NFHS. Are we saying the same thing?
OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!! No, we're not saying the same thing. Sorry. Yes, it is definitely NOT the NFHS mechanic for the Trail to watch ALL the opposite lane spaces. Now I understand. I'm sorry about that. My own assumptions got in the way.
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Old Fri Sep 14, 2007, 10:46am
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OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!! No, we're not saying the same thing. Sorry. Yes, it is definitely NOT the NFHS mechanic for the Trail to watch ALL the opposite lane spaces. Now I understand. I'm sorry about that. My own assumptions got in the way.
Since I am starting my first season, I will see what the chapter really wants us to do regarding this "exceptions list" I found. I intend to follow NFHS mechanics unless directed otherwise. It is also becoming clear that we are expected to enforce the NFHS rules in regards to Varsity play and use more common sense methods for lower ball. I agree with their philosophy, especially considering the ability of players at the lower levels.
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