Officiating Resources

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by agmattbballref

Actually, in Texas we are abiding by NFHS rules with a couple of minor exceptions (i.e. the coaching box and throw in mechanics), unfortunately, we are one of the few states that although we abide by federation rules we are not actually a part of the NFHS. So in order to tap the NFHS resources an official has to purchase a seperate membership to the NFHS in order to tap that resource. I have already obtained membership to the NFHS and I am now able to utilize these resources.

Well you are there and you know about your local area much better than I do.

However, there have been other posters on this forum hailing from TX who have stated that TASO does such and such or does not do something that way. One poster even stated that his area of TX uses NCAA rules and NOT NFHS rules for HS games.

That's what I've read.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Well you are there and you know about your local area much better than I do.

TASO did used to have their own mechanics book and used it rather than the NFHS guidelines. However, they weren't all that different. Sometime about 5 years ago or so they decided to go with the NFHS.

However, there have been other posters on this forum hailing from TX who have stated that TASO does such and such or does not do something that way. One poster even stated that his area of TX uses NCAA rules and NOT NFHS rules for HS games.

That's football - they take it seriously down here

Although the NFHS basketball rules are getting closer and closer to NCAA every year!

[Splute]

The only posted "exceptions" I have found from TASO are as follows but I am not certain this is current:

TASO exceptions to National Federation Mechanics:
1. coaching box ( I believe TX has a 6 foot box)
2. foul reporting area (clear of all players, above the free throw line, outside of three point arc)
3. Free Throw Coverage: observe opposite lane lines
4. "Bird Dogging" fouls (pointing to offender) is optional (actually we are requested not to bird dog)
5. Lead does not administer sideline throwins below free throw line extended (trail administers all side line throwins)
6. Court Positioning on Time Outs - 30 sec TO- top of key
60 sec TO - opposite free throw lane blocks.
(however I believe this was changned this year to new NFHS changes)
7. Switch only on shooting fouls

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Splute

TASO exceptions to National Federation Mechanics:
1. coaching box ( I believe TX has a 6 foot box)

Technically, this is not an exception to NFHS rules. NFHS allows states to choose whether they will utilize the coaching box. It's a "state adoption", but it is in the rules.

3. Free Throw Coverage: observe opposite lane lines
4. "Bird Dogging" fouls (pointing to offender) is optional (actually we are requested not to bird dog)

Both of these are the NFHS mechanic, aren't they?

[Splute]

Both of these are the NFHS mechanic, aren't they? [/quote]

I believe the exception is regarding which positions the Trail vs Lead are watching. This states Trail would watch the lane opposite his postion on the court and the Lead would watch the lane opposite his position, rather than the specific assignment that NFHS states.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Splute

This states Trail would watch the lane opposite his postion on the court and the Lead would watch the lane opposite his position, rather than the specific assignment that NFHS states.

My point is that I believe those are the specific assignment that NFHS states. If I'm wrong, someone will correct me; but I'm pretty sure that in HS, each official watches the lane line opposite from him/her. In NCAA, each official watches the lane line closer to him/her.

Just to clarify. . . we're talking about watching the lane line for free throw violations, right? (I probably should've asked that sooner)

[Adam]

My understanding is that the trail (or center) watches the top spot closest to him/her and top two positions on the opposite lane line. The lead watches the bottom spot on the closer line and the bottom two on the opposite line. Am I wrong?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

My understanding is that the trail (or center) watches the top spot closest to him/her and top two positions on the opposite lane line. The lead watches the bottom spot on the closer line and the bottom two on the opposite line. Am I wrong?

Hmmm -- I thought it was "T has the FT shooter and the top two opposite. L has closest player an entire opposite."

Originally Posted by DaQuickster

Question: What does it mean when it states "Up to three separate five-second counts may occur on the same ball handler, holding, dribbling, and holding."?

A player in control of the ball may hold it for five (well, 4.999999) seconds without a violation being called. the player may then dribble for 5 seconds without a violation being called. The player may then again hold the ball for 5 seconds without a violation being called.

[Splute]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

My point is that I believe those are the specific assignment that NFHS states. If I'm wrong, someone will correct me; but I'm pretty sure that in HS, each official watches the lane line opposite from him/her. In NCAA, each official watches the lane line closer to him/her.

Just to clarify. . . we're talking about watching the lane line for free throw violations, right? (I probably should've asked that sooner)

Correct Scrapper, we are talking lane violations. However, I am not sure I am clear on your first point. Yes the NFHS has stated which positions on opposite lanes will be watched by which official. I am stating that the TASO exception now has the official watching ALL the lane positions opposite him only, instead of just the ones stated by the NFHS. Are we saying the same thing? I do not have my book to quote which postions each official observes in the lane, but I do know it is not ALL opposite lanes only. Would you agree with that?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Splute

I am stating that the TASO exception now has the official watching ALL the lane positions opposite him only, instead of just the ones stated by the NFHS. Are we saying the same thing?

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!! No, we're not saying the same thing. Sorry. Yes, it is definitely NOT the NFHS mechanic for the Trail to watch ALL the opposite lane spaces. Now I understand. I'm sorry about that. My own assumptions got in the way.