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Jurassic Referee Tue Sep 11, 2007 08:08am

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
pssst...M&M...what's a semantic??

I can think of a coupla answers, but none of 'em would last.:D

Adam Tue Sep 11, 2007 08:12am

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Originally Posted by just another ref
So if it was not pertaining to the defensive player exception in 9-9-1, what was the significance of whether there is a defense on the throw-in or not?

Semantics. :D

Jurassic Referee Tue Sep 11, 2007 08:13am

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Originally Posted by just another ref
So if it was not pertaining to the defensive player exception in 9-9-1, what was the significance of whether there is a defense on the throw-in or not?

There really isn't any significance. It's irrelevant to 9-9-3. That rule says that the exception <b>during</b> a throw-in applies to <b>every</b> player on the floor. The case play just further tells us that the exception ended when the throw-in ended, and only applies to the first player touching the ball on the throw-in anyway.

Make sense now?

M&M Guy Tue Sep 11, 2007 08:51am

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Originally Posted by Dan_ref
pssst...M&M...what's a semantic??

(I always thought it was a company that makes anti-virus software, but damn if I know how it applies to backcourt violations...)

Scrapper1 Tue Sep 11, 2007 09:55am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
The rule book disagrees with you.

9-9-3
A player from the team not in control (defensive player or during a jump ball or throw-in) . . .

I hate to say this, but I actually think that the rule you quoted argues against your position. If the opponent of the inbounder is considered a defender by the rules, then why is "a player from the team not in control" described as a defensive player or a player during a jump ball or a player during a throw-in? If an opponent of the inbounder were a defender, you wouldn't need both "defensive player" and "during a throw-in" in the description.

bob jenkins Tue Sep 11, 2007 09:59am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
I hate to say this, but I actually think that the rule you quoted argues against your position. If the opponent of the inbounder is considered a defender by the rules, then why is "a player from the team not in control" described as a defensive player or a player during a jump ball or a player during a throw-in? If an opponent of the inbounder were a defender, you wouldn't need both "defensive player" and "during a throw-in" in the description.

You'd still need "during a throw-in" to allow for the "offensive" team to have the exception.

mbyron Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:00am

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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_ref
pssst...M&M...what's a semantic??

(I always thought it was a company that makes anti-virus software, but damn if I know how it applies to backcourt violations...)

Semantics is the theory of meanings.

What's most unfortunate here is that some of you seem anti-semantic. :D

P.S. Why are you guys whispering?

Mark Padgett Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:21am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Semantics is the theory of meanings.

I thought it was the meaning of theories. :confused:

Dan_ref Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:31am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Semantics is the theory of meanings.

What's most unfortunate here is that some of you seem anti-semantic. :D

P.S. Why are you guys whispering?

(To keep OS from hearing us)

Jurassic Referee Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:02am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Semantics is the theory of meanings.

Oh? I thought it had sumthin' to do with male bodily fluids.

bob jenkins Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:03am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Semantics is the theory of meanings.

What's most unfortunate here is that some of you seem anti-semantic. :D

P.S. Why are you guys whispering?

Anti-semantic is the theory of being mean.

mbyron Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:10am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Oh? I thought it had sumthin' to do with male bodily fluids.

Oh, great, now Padgett will post images. :eek:

Adam Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:11am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Oh, great, now Padgett will post images. :eek:

Sure, with that kind of encouragement.

Mark Padgett Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:16am

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Originally Posted by mbyron
Oh, great, now Padgett will post images. :eek:

Nah - too easy. BTW - next time someone at the grocery store, bank or restaurant tritely asks you how you are today, reply "misanthropic". :p

Gotta go now. Gotta expunge some bodily fluid.

I know - TMI. Sorry.

mbyron Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:19am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
BTW - next time someone at the grocery store, bank or restaurant tritely asks you how you are today, reply "misanthropic". :p

Hmm, have we met? Seems you already know me. :p

Oh, and stop telling me what to do.


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