OFF TOPIC WARNING: Hey Rut! How 'out them Mountaineers!?!?!

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

All Cubs fans have been saying since last year that the Cardinals did not deserve to win the World Series. That might be true, but they won the division (and still might this year) last year and performed when it counted. The Cubs might not even make the post season if they cannot beat the Dodgers and most of the team is healthy. You even have Woody back.

I don't know about "all Cub fans"; all I said was the best team did not win the World Series. I base this on the fact that the Cardinals won 83 games in the regular season, which is the lowest regular-season win total ever for a World Series winner. They were also 8-11 vs. the Cubs last year, and the Cubs were in last place in the division. They did, however, get hot at the right time and win the games necessary in the post-season. That doesn't make them the "best team".

Originally Posted by JRutledge

For your information, they are ranked.

No Appl. State is not ranked in the same rankings available to Michigan; they cannot be ranked, because they are too small a school. Likewise, Michigan cannot be ranked in the same rankings as Appl. State. Apples and kumquats.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Next thing you are going to tell me the U of I has one a national championship in basketball too.

Using your logic, the U of I has been in way more championship games this century than the U of M. They have also been in the tournament more times. But, I believe as a wise man once said, "Don't let the facts get in the way of being a Wolverine fan."

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I don't know about "all Cub fans";

I'll tell you about "all Cub fans". They're dumb enough to stick with a team that traded away Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I'll tell you about "all Cub fans". They're dumb enough to stick with a team that traded away Lou Brock for Ernie Broglio.

Sorry, I'm not old enough to know those guys.

But, in looking at my history book, Ernie Broglio was a decent pitcher at the time. In 1960, he was 3rd in the Cy Young voting, and 9th in the NL MVP voting, ahead of such names as Eddie Matthews, Warren Spahn, Hank Aaron, Stan Musial, Maury Wills, and Frank Robinson. Even as late as '63 he was 18-8 with a 2.99 ERA. And, at the time of the trade, the most bases Lou Brock ever stole in a season was 24.

Hindsight is always 20-20.

Just ask the guy that added Appalachian State on the Michigan schedule.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I don't know about "all Cub fans"; all I said was the best team did not win the World Series. I base this on the fact that the Cardinals won 83 games in the regular season, which is the lowest regular-season win total ever for a World Series winner. They were also 8-11 vs. the Cubs last year, and the Cubs were in last place in the division. They did, however, get hot at the right time and win the games necessary in the post-season. That doesn't make them the "best team".

They do not give trophies for who the best team is. They give trophies and banners for who actually won. I will take the "The Cardinals were not the best team..." all day. Did I mention that in my life time the Cardinals have been to the World Series 5 times and won twice? Can you say the same?

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Using your logic, the U of I has been in way more championship games this century than the U of M. They have also been in the tournament more times. But, I believe as a wise man once said, "Don't let the facts get in the way of being a Wolverine fan."

I do not care about tournaments, I care about Championships. To be ranked #1 in a bracket or get to the Final Four and come up with no hardware means little to a school that has actually won a championship. Then again it was sweet that Michigan beat the Flying Illini on the way to a national championship.

Also it feels great to be associated with the school that everyone hates because the school is successful. After all this is what sports is about right? Talking about your teams and how the other team stinks. I am not going to just take it; I am going to give it back to you. That is what I do in these situations.

Peace

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Did I mention that in my life time the Cardinals have been to the World Series 5 times and won twice? Can you say the same?

Heck no - I'm nowhere near as old as JR.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not care about tournaments, I care about Championships.

Ok, how many Big Ten Championships has Michigan won in basketball this century? (Hint: 0) How many has the U of I won? (Hint: 3 regular season titles and 2 conference tournament titles)

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Then again it was sweet that Michigan beat the Flying Illini on the way to a national championship.

Geeze, that's soooo last century.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

After all this is what sports is about right? Talking about your teams and how the other team stinks.

Absolutely. But, you still have to learn how to take it when you need to. I've had practice.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Ok, how many Big Ten Championships has Michigan won in basketball this century? (Hint: 0) How many has the U of I won? (Hint: 3 regular season titles and 2 conference tournament titles)

How many Big Ten Titles has Illinois won in football? I did not even know they had football program. And fans at Michigan know better to attend games of a program that is a sinking ship. The Cubs keep jacking up prices, scalp their own tickets and like a dumb sheep you silly fans keep going to games. And you have not been to a single World Series in a century. And this year you will not make the playoffs again.

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Absolutely. But, you still have to learn how to take it when you need to. I've had practice.

No you don't. I did not even refer you by name and you came here defending the world's largest beer garden.

Peace

[Mountaineer]

I thought I'd chime-in for fun . . . did anyone notice that North Carolina won this weekend? They defeated 1-AA James Madison 37-14. Guess Butch Davis is better than we thought, huh? Now Duke did lose, but they played a team from the Big East so what do you expect?

I'm wondering if Michigan will now come and try to get our football coach too? I've already heard his name mentioned . . . sheeeeeesh! The joke going around WV is that Lloyd Carr was using John Beilein's man-to-man defense!!!!