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[crew]

Originally posted by BBarnaky
1 being ignore the problem totally...10 being Technical Foul. 2 through 9 are creations that you use to help bring a coach back to the adult world from the "child world" (i.e. to a diffuse a coach).....certain responses being polite and nice, being stern with a voice, a scowl, the stop sign for a warning, these types of responses are 2 through 9.

nicely stated bbarnaky

[ChuckElias]

For tony and BBarnaby:

I like the "Richter Scale" for coaches. My quesiton is, do you use this scale when communicating with your partner? In other words, during a time-out, do you go to your partner and say, "I just hit level 8 with Coach A"? That way your partner knows that next time Coach A talks to him, he gets his official level 9 warning.

I'm just curious. I hadn't heard of the 1-10 system before and I think I like it.

Chuck

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
For tony and BBarnaby:

I like the "Richter Scale" for coaches. My quesiton is, do you use this scale when communicating with your partner? In other words, during a time-out, do you go to your partner and say, "I just hit level 8 with Coach A"? That way your partner knows that next time Coach A talks to him, he gets his official level 9 warning.

I'm just curious. I hadn't heard of the 1-10 system before and I think I like it.

Chuck

I just use a "pass/fail". I call it the sphincter scale.

[crew]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
For tony and BBarnaby:

I like the "Richter Scale" for coaches. My quesiton is, do you use this scale when communicating with your partner? In other words, during a time-out, do you go to your partner and say, "I just hit level 8 with Coach A"? That way your partner knows that next time Coach A talks to him, he gets his official level 9 warning.

I'm just curious. I hadn't heard of the 1-10 system before and I think I like it.

Chuck

yes, communication is very important.

[crew]

i finished working my game tonite and all went well. when i shook the coaches hands tonite i stated that today is a new day and all slates are clean.

after i thought about the game tonite i am glad i forgave the coach. he made a bad play, like i make bad plays at times. i know when i make a bad call i hope that poeple will forget quickly.

i am actually glad that i do not have a long contreversial story for everyone, though they are fun reading.

[Dan_ref]

Sounds good, but it sure would have been fun to read how
you tossed his @ss 2 minute in!

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by crew

im not going to eject a coach for that alone. i whacked him and told my partners what had happened. the coach had no rope for the rest of the night, and he knew it. his assistant took over from that point.

in pregame i discuss with my partners if we tech a coach we do not speak to him on any level for the next 4 or five game min. last night we did not speak to him for the remainder of the game. 1-9 was thrown out the window, he had used those babies up.

I do not care what level of game this was. What that coach said is a flagrant technical foul. No one has the right to say that and stay in the game.

[crew]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
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I do not care what level of game this was. What that coach said is a flagrant technical foul. No one has the right to say that and stay in the game.

this is a possibility, but i did not think the ejection was appropriate. hindsight i think i did the right thing because the situation went from intense to obsolete in just a few moments. had this coach thrown a fit or something similar i would have no problem ejecting him.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
I do not care what level of game this was. What that coach said is a flagrant technical foul. No one has the right to say that and stay in the game.

I agree. I see know reason to let this guy stick around.

In fact, if this happened to me, and I didn't eject him, I could be suspended for two games. The NCHSAA requires us to eject any player, coach, or bench personnel who directs profanity at an official or opponent. The individual is alos suspended for 2 games. If you don't take care of business in such a situation, you'll be the one sitting home for two games.

[crew]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

I agree. I see know reason to let this guy stick around.

In fact, if this happened to me, and I didn't eject him, I could be suspended for two games. The NCHSAA requires us to eject any player, coach, or bench personnel who directs profanity at an official or opponent. The individual is alos suspended for 2 games. If you don't take care of business in such a situation, you'll be the one sitting home for two games.

this is a judgement call. and if i ejected every player that cursed at me or fellow official, i would have to eject quite a few people.

I.E. thats bulsh1t, are yoy f*cking kidding me, just a couple.

but i do see where you are coming from on the ejection.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
In fact, if this happened to me, and I didn't eject him, I could be suspended for two games. The NCHSAA requires us to eject any player, coach, or bench personnel who directs profanity at an official or opponent.

Tony, could you help me get this rule implemented in my rec league? Whenever I call a T for even the most blatant profanities, I get pulled aside by my supervisors and told that I should let that go.

(Note: I follow the basic rule of "If you shout it so everyone can hear it; it's a T. - No, I don't give technicals for every 'sh*t' you hear after players miss rebounds.")

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by crew

this is a judgement call. and if i ejected every player that cursed at me or fellow official, i would have to eject quite a few people.

I.E. thats bulsh1t, are yoy f*cking kidding me, just a couple.

With all due respect, maybe that's why you have so many people cursing you. We have a zero tolerance for such behavior and, as such, have very, very little problem with it.

[BBarnaky]

I think crew is referencing his experiences in the college level here on this thread and not high school. I think at the high school level we have to me a referee and a disciplinarian when it comes to profanity (unfortunately because the parents and coaches do not control it from the get go).

[crew]

hearing people curse is a common occurrence in the games i work, and doesn't bother me unless directed towards me. i can be quite foul as well, though i do not curse on the court.

i guess it just comes down to personal preference.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by BBarnaky
I think crew is referencing his experiences in the college level here on this thread and not high school.

I hope I don't sound thin-skinned, but this kind of post is what set me off once before with Eli (eroe). I'm sure that the intent is not to "big time" anybody, but it sounds like you're saying, "Come on guys, stop being such babies. It's time to grow up and start thinking like college officials". It just rubs me wrong.

Who cares if tony is talking about high school or college? TH's point, and I think he's right, is that if the ACC commissioner told his officials to T Coach K every time he loudly dropped an F-bomb, he would stop doing it. That's all.

We all understand that for whatever reason, it's accepted for the big time guys to curse, even at the officials. We see it all the time and it's let go. We understand that. The point is merely that if they made it clear that it wouldn't be tolerated, it would go away -- or the coaches would be sitting in the locker rooms. Can anybody disagree with that? And more than that, wouldn't that be a good thing?

Chuck