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Old Sat Aug 18, 2007, 04:11pm
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Subvarsity uniforms are generally hand me downs from the varsity in previous seasons. SInce the rulesmakers gave everybody a few years to be in compliance at the varsity level, it would be unfair to expect subvarsity to follow this rule for the next couple of years. After the "new" uniforms of 2007-08 have been passed down, then compliance should be expected at the lower levels.

However, if you have a totally anal decision making body in your area or state, you may see teams buying white tee shirts and using magic markers after their first game to be legal.
But what about Middle School or CYO teams that can't take advantage of hand-me-downs?

Not sure how many lower level ADs & coaches keep abreast of rules, but i imagine this year will be a crash course in rule changes.
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abreast of rules
Good choice of words for a thread about jerseys.
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Old Sat Aug 18, 2007, 11:32pm
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Good choice of words for a thread about jerseys.

only a girls ref would notice that
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I happened to be going through old stuff, and I found the NASO 2006-2007 pre-season rule change booklet they, in conjunction with NFHS, send out. They had an article concerning the uniform change for next year (2007-2008) and said it applied only to Varsity games, and that sub-varsity could use the hand-me down uniforms to save the schools the expense of having to buy new uniforms for all their teams.

Seems sensible to me.
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I happened to be going through old stuff, and I found the NASO 2006-2007 pre-season rule change booklet they, in conjunction with NFHS, send out. They had an article concerning the uniform change for next year (2007-2008) and said it applied only to Varsity games, and that sub-varsity could use the hand-me down uniforms to save the schools the expense of having to buy new uniforms for all their teams.

Seems sensible to me.
Good point and it got me thinking(which isn't good usually)......

I went back to the 2004-05 rulebook in which this rule was originally initiated and read it a little deeper. In the COMMENTS ON THE 2004-05 RULES REVISIONS, you'll find the following statement--"The new rule only affects varsity uniforms; lower level programs may still continue to wear 'light-colored' uniforms as home jerseys." I would imagine that unless this concept has changed, it will be spelled out in the upcoming year's rule book, and also hopefully as a case play.

I went back and deleted my previous post in this thread as it was wrong/misleading.

Good catch, Frank.
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If this is how the rule is to be and will be interpeted, you answered my question. Thanks
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If you really want to get technical, then think of what NFHS stands for and then look at the statements about middle school, CYO, rec league, etc.
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Old Wed Aug 29, 2007, 08:55pm
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Good point and it got me thinking(which isn't good usually)......

I went back to the 2004-05 rulebook in which this rule was originally initiated and read it a little deeper. In the COMMENTS ON THE 2004-05 RULES REVISIONS, you'll find the following statement--"The new rule only affects varsity uniforms; lower level programs may still continue to wear 'light-colored' uniforms as home jerseys." I would imagine that unless this concept has changed, it will be spelled out in the upcoming year's rule book, and also hopefully as a case play.

I went back and deleted my previous post in this thread as it was wrong/misleading.

Good catch, Frank.
Follow up......

Got my new 2007-08 rule and case books tonight.......

There is no mention specifically in either about the rule only pertaining to varsity high school programs.
-new rule 3-4-6(b) just says that the home school must wear white team jerseys.
- new case book play 3.4.6SitA says that if a home team isn't wearing white tops, you should direct them prior to the start of the game to change. If they can't comply, each starter is charged with a technical foul. Each entering substitute without a white top also gets a "T" when they enter. One "T" max per player per game.
- new 10-3-2PENALTY says that each violation is penalized one time if discovered prior to the ball becoming live for each designated starter and each substitute who enters. Note- NO indirect "T" to the head coach.
- new 2007-08 POE 1(C) further says that if you do have to nail everybody on the home team, "a special report form should be filed with the state association when that occurs."
- #56 on the NFHS 2007-08 Part 1 exam is based on this rule.

It looks like everybody will still have to get direction from their state governing body as to whether the new rule applies to all teams versus varsity teams only, unless the FED issues something further.
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If it is middle school boys, I wouldn't care if they go shirts vs. skins and write numbers on with a magic marker. If it's girls, they have to wear different color shirts. Let them play!
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Old Sat Aug 18, 2007, 10:17pm
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Jurassic is right, everybody has had plenty of time to get their act together,but if I may , just ask your local assoc/assignor,or both, how they want the situation dealt with, just so all refs are on the same page.
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