Volleyball anyone?

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Stupid is as stupid does, Forest.

Actually, it is Forrest [Gump].

Just like you'd rather have two desserts and only ever visit one desert, you'd watch Forrest Gump twice, and only visit a forest once.

Edit: as for volleyball, have you seen the tall leggy women that play at the higher levels?

[jmaellis]

07/08 will be my third season officiating VB, my second officiating BB. I really like them both and can't really say which I would choose over the other if I had to drop one.

Obviously, there is no comparison with regard to the physical aspect of the games; BB you run, VB you don't.

Mentally, my personal experience is that VB has been more challenging than BB, more so as the referee than as the umpire. I've struggled with recognizing proper alignment/overlaps at serve and making sure that I know who is who in the back row during play.

I have a great deal of respect for those officials who can somehow memorize the entire line up and recognize an alignment error with just a glance. Some of the teams will line up is such a bizarre alignment that you would swear that they are overlapped, yet they are not; others will purposely assemble illegally and then just before serve they adjust to make their alignment legal .. sheesh!

Illegal back row attacks .... I've missed more of them than I care to mention.

And now in CA the Libero can serve .. for crying out loud!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Actually, it is Forrest [Gump].

Just like you'd rather have two desserts and only ever visit one desert, you'd watch Forrest Gump twice, and only visit a forest once.

Edit: as for volleyball, have you seen the tall leggy women that play at the higher levels?

I wasn't aDDreSSing FoRRest Gump.

I was aDDreSSing Forest Refnrev.

BuTT thanks for your interest.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I wasn't aDDreSSing FoRRest Gump.

I was aDDreSSing Forest Refnrev.

BuTT thanks for your interest.

k00l.

[bob jenkins]

SuBBOOKKEEper

[stmaryrams]

I am also a Basketball/Volleyball official and enjoy both sports. There is no question that basketball involves much more physical activity but I do enjoy the varsity volleyball games. Lower level volleyball is similar to lower level basketball in that the skill level does not allow for a well played game. I would have to agree with those who say that they are just printing money in those matches.

Last year my first game and last game were both varsity matches played to full houses. The joint was rocking and loud, the kids were playing lights out, the kills were brutal. Mixed bag in between those games of talent level throughout the year but still fun.

I did a 5th grade rec league game where both teams played above the usual level for a rec league. In the deciding game one of the coaches took out his best player as she had played in the first two games and he wanted to be fair. One of the best sportsmanship moves I saw last season. They eventually lost but his parents were fine as all the kids played. His goal was to prepare them for eventually playing in high school and he wanted to be sure that everyone still enjoyed the game. You never know if you're gonna cut the next Jordan.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by stmaryrams

In the deciding game one of the coaches took out his best player as she had played in the first two games and he wanted to be fair. One of the best sportsmanship moves I saw last season. They eventually lost but his parents were fine as all the kids played. His goal was to prepare them for eventually playing in high school and he wanted to be sure that everyone still enjoyed the game.

This coach deserves a medal.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by stmaryrams

I would have to agree with those who say that they are just printing money in those matches.

Thank you. That's all I was saying. Then Rev got his panties in a bunch.

It's a piece of cake, working those games but it bores me to death.

[refnrev]

[QUOTE=BktBallRef]Thank you. That's all I was saying. Then Rev got his panties in a bunch.
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Actually, they were compression shorts! (which you would never wear when doing VB anyway.)

[Andy]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Edit: as for volleyball, have you seen the tall leggy women that play at the higher levels?

....with the nice, tight shorts on.....

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Andy

....with the nice, tight shorts on.....

Are you sure that wasn't refnrev?

[refnrev]

I heard that tjones1 is thinking about adding beach volleyball to the sports he officiates. I think he has this thing for temporary gatorade tattoos? How about it TJ?

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by refnrev

I heard that tjones1 is thinking about adding beach volleyball to the sports he officiates. I think he has this thing for temporary gatorade tattoos? How about it TJ?

Hey, the rumor is true. We are still trying to work out my contract. Things are on the hush-hush right now. But, I can tell you they aren't going for the round trip and board, plus free Cold Stone Ice Cream. And yeah, the gatorade tattoos are just an added bonus!

[MCBear]

I hate to burst your bubble, guys, but volleyball is the most difficult sport to officiate, period!

Now, before you burst a jugular after reading that sentence, hear me out. I started out as a basketball official and worked the sport for 10 years, I proceeded to umpire high school baseball and fast-pitch softball as well as summer ball. Those sports were easy for me to do because I had experience with the games that I was officiating. Volleyball, however, was a whole different case.

I originally decided to do volleyball because I remembered what it was like, freezing my butt off on the football sideline at the end of October, early November in NorthWest Ohio. So, I decided to officiate volleyball.

Yes, the pay for officiating volleybal is pretty decent, but if you are going to do a good job, you better be willing to work your tail off to learn the game. BktBallRef, you have obviously never studied the game of volleyball because you never played it competitively. You sound exactly like a lot of the guys who thought that reffing volleyball was easy money, like stealing it from a baby. It is only that if you don't take the time to learn how to officiate the game properly.

I freely admit, that of all the sports that I officiated, I disliked (read that "hated") volleyball the most because (1) I had never played the sport and (2) every time the ball is touched, it is a judgment call as to whether the contact is legal or not. I couldn't see the double for the longest time, but I worked my tail off to follow the advice of coaches and officials whom I respected. Plus, learning when a team is out of rotation with some of the "stacks" that coaches have devised will almost drive you cross-eyed trying to figure out what the heck the team is doing.

What I am saying, in a nutshell, is what I heard a very respected volleyball official say, "Refereeing volleyball is easy...unless you want to do it correctly! Then, you are going to have to do some serious work to get it right."

Those kids on the court deserve the best job of officiating that can be provided. If the official isn't there for the kids and the love of the game, I can guarantee that particular individual is not going to be officiating volleyball very long because they will either consider it a "boring" sport or the coaches will not put up with the attitude of the ref being there just for the paycheck.

After 10 years of refereeing basketball and 11 years of umpiring baseball/softball, the only sport that I do any more is volleyball and I think that I may finally be getting an idea what the sport is about as I start my 25th season.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by MCBear

Yes, the pay for officiating volleybal is pretty decent, but if you are going to do a good job, you better be willing to work your tail off to learn the game. BktBallRef, you have obviously never studied the game of volleyball because you never played it competitively. You sound exactly like a lot of the guys who thought that reffing volleyball was easy money, like stealing it from a baby. It is only that if you don't take the time to learn how to officiate the game properly.

You're right, I haven't ever played volleyball competitively. It would be a waste of my time. I couldn't care less how I sound. I don't like and have no interest in officiating it, watching, and hearing about it for that matter. If that bunches your panties, so be it.

Yep, it's real tough to stand on a stool and turn your head back and forth, back and forth, back...... You're to be commended for all your hard work!

Originally Posted by FMadera

No matter how many people say it, it doesn't make it any less ignorant. Blah, balh, blah.....

And just because you say it with conviction, it doesn't make you sound any less stupid. A PIECE OF CAKE!

Now, for the both of you: I didn't attack you, didn't address, don't know either of you from Adam. Yet, you both chose to single me out when all I did was post my feelings regarding the sport. If you don't like it, I don't give a $hit. I don't live my life for you. It's a boring freaking game to me, whether it's Podunk HS vs. Redneck HS or UCLA against Hawaii. You can have it!

BTW, to say that you must have played a sport to understand how to properly officiate it is one of the stupidest remarks that I read on discussion boards. It's soemthing we normally hear from fanboys! How gay is that, a volleyball fanboy?