Volleyball anyone?

[refnrev]

[QUOTE=BktBallRef]Volleyball officiating is like stealing money.
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I hear this phrase a lot -- usually from football or basketball guys -- but always from people who have no idea how stupid a statement it is!

[Back In The Saddle]

I've done one season of wreck league quality volleyball. It can be really boring. It does require quite a bit of mental effort. Some of that effort is just keeping your head in the game. Unlike basketball there isn't the physical effort that generally keeps you in the game. I concur with Juulie's dizzying comment, the ball moves pretty quickly and there's other stuff to watch right along with it and until you adjust it can be kinda harrying. Fortunately adjusting doesn't take too long. I'm tempted to do it this year for the money.

[a4caster]

I am a tri-official (football, basketball, volleyball) and each sport has their goods and bads. I think that when you take multiple sports, it forces you to learn the rules even more. For those thinking volleyball is boring, I must beg to differ. I work a lot of HS in the larger schools and the hits and digs are great to watch. When you have to keep the back rows straight and look that net straight down for a touch, you can't afford to doze off.
I have a little matrix for my sports and their demands on me:

Football: Highly Physical Low Mental
Volleyball: Low Physical Highly Mental
Basketball: Highly Physical Highly Mental

Great mix of sports for me. Enjoy all of them.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by a4caster

I am a tri-official (football, basketball, volleyball) and each sport has their goods and bads. I think that when you take multiple sports, it forces you to learn the rules even more. For those thinking volleyball is boring, I must beg to differ. I work a lot of HS in the larger schools and the hits and digs are great to watch. When you have to keep the back rows straight and look that net straight down for a touch, you can't afford to doze off.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by refnrev

I hear this phrase a lot -- usually from football or basketball guys -- but always from people who have no idea how stupid a statement it is!

Call it stupid if you like but I'm not just a football/basketball official who's just saying it. I've worked volleyball. I've never made so much for doing so little. It's a piece of cake, it's boring as hell, it's stealing money. In my area, the guys who are are now in the 60's and 70's call volleyball. There's nothing to it.

Stupid is as stupid does, Forest.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Stupid is as stupid does, Forest.

Actually, it is Forrest [Gump].

Just like you'd rather have two desserts and only ever visit one desert, you'd watch Forrest Gump twice, and only visit a forest once.

Edit: as for volleyball, have you seen the tall leggy women that play at the higher levels?

[jmaellis]

07/08 will be my third season officiating VB, my second officiating BB. I really like them both and can't really say which I would choose over the other if I had to drop one.

Obviously, there is no comparison with regard to the physical aspect of the games; BB you run, VB you don't.

Mentally, my personal experience is that VB has been more challenging than BB, more so as the referee than as the umpire. I've struggled with recognizing proper alignment/overlaps at serve and making sure that I know who is who in the back row during play.

I have a great deal of respect for those officials who can somehow memorize the entire line up and recognize an alignment error with just a glance. Some of the teams will line up is such a bizarre alignment that you would swear that they are overlapped, yet they are not; others will purposely assemble illegally and then just before serve they adjust to make their alignment legal .. sheesh!

Illegal back row attacks .... I've missed more of them than I care to mention.

And now in CA the Libero can serve .. for crying out loud!

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Actually, it is Forrest [Gump].

Just like you'd rather have two desserts and only ever visit one desert, you'd watch Forrest Gump twice, and only visit a forest once.

Edit: as for volleyball, have you seen the tall leggy women that play at the higher levels?

I wasn't aDDreSSing FoRRest Gump.

I was aDDreSSing Forest Refnrev.

BuTT thanks for your interest.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I wasn't aDDreSSing FoRRest Gump.

I was aDDreSSing Forest Refnrev.

BuTT thanks for your interest.

k00l.

[bob jenkins]

SuBBOOKKEEper

[stmaryrams]

I am also a Basketball/Volleyball official and enjoy both sports. There is no question that basketball involves much more physical activity but I do enjoy the varsity volleyball games. Lower level volleyball is similar to lower level basketball in that the skill level does not allow for a well played game. I would have to agree with those who say that they are just printing money in those matches.

Last year my first game and last game were both varsity matches played to full houses. The joint was rocking and loud, the kids were playing lights out, the kills were brutal. Mixed bag in between those games of talent level throughout the year but still fun.

I did a 5th grade rec league game where both teams played above the usual level for a rec league. In the deciding game one of the coaches took out his best player as she had played in the first two games and he wanted to be fair. One of the best sportsmanship moves I saw last season. They eventually lost but his parents were fine as all the kids played. His goal was to prepare them for eventually playing in high school and he wanted to be sure that everyone still enjoyed the game. You never know if you're gonna cut the next Jordan.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Edit: as for volleyball, have you seen the tall leggy women that play at the higher levels?

....with the nice, tight shorts on.....

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Andy

....with the nice, tight shorts on.....

Are you sure that wasn't refnrev?

[refnrev]

I heard that tjones1 is thinking about adding beach volleyball to the sports he officiates. I think he has this thing for temporary gatorade tattoos? How about it TJ?

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by refnrev

I heard that tjones1 is thinking about adding beach volleyball to the sports he officiates. I think he has this thing for temporary gatorade tattoos? How about it TJ?

Hey, the rumor is true. We are still trying to work out my contract. Things are on the hush-hush right now. But, I can tell you they aren't going for the round trip and board, plus free Cold Stone Ice Cream. And yeah, the gatorade tattoos are just an added bonus!