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[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

Tell me, what can you legally do with 00.0 showing on the clock? Can you tap and score? If you say yes, then you don’t understand what you are enforcing.

For the record, I really do hate responding to this troll because all it does is encourage him, but I hate like hell to think that any new officials reading this could possibly think that he'd ever be correct.

Can you tap and score with 0.00 on the clock but before the horn has gone off? The answer of course is "YES", you sureashell can. The period ends when the horn goes-NFHS rule 5-6-2. If a ball is in flight before the horn goes off during a try or TAP, the quarter ends when the tap ends(i.e.-when it's good or not)--NFHS rule 5-6-2EXCEPTION1. Casebook plays 5.2.5SitA(a) and 6.7.6SitB also both very explicitly say that Goofball's statement above, as usual, is completely incorrect according to the rules.

I understand what I'm enforcing. I learn the rules to do that. You're making up your own damn rules again because you don't know or understand the rules that we're supposed to use.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

For the record, I really do hate responding to this troll because all it does is encourage him, but I hate like hell to think that any new officials reading this could possibly think that he'd ever be correct.

Can you tap and score with 0.00 on the clock but before the horn has gone off? The answer of course is "YES", you sureashell can. The period ends when the horn goes-NFHS rule 5-6-2. If a ball is in flight before the horn goes off during a try or TAP, the quarter ends when the tap ends(i.e.-when it's good or not)--NFHS rule 5-6-2EXCEPTION1. Casebook plays 5.2.5SitA(a) and 6.7.6SitB also both very explicitly say that Goofball's statement above, as usual, is completely incorrect according to the rules.

I understand what I'm enforcing. I learn the rules to do that. You're making up your own damn rules again because you don't know or understand the rules that we're supposed to use.

as I stated before.

Originally Posted by Old School

...the Fed. Rulebook has done and continues to do more disservice to the game than I could ever do.

It's okay with me if you say you can legally score with 00.0 on the clock. It's okay with me that you can run another play with 00.0 time remaining on the clock. Just don't tell me that I can't put time back on the clock if I know there is time left. If it's okay to run a play with 00.0 on the clock, then it sureashell should be okay if I put time back on the clock when I have definite knowledge that time should be put back on the clock. Also, don't tell me that I don't know what I'm doing or I'm making up my own rules by doing so. The rules are not perfect, so give me a break. We work with what we got to work with, period, and we do the best we can with that, period.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

1) It's okay with me if you say you can legally score with 00.0 on the clock. It's okay with me that you can run another play with 00.0 time remaining on the clock.

2) Just don't tell me that I can't put time back on the clock if I know there is time left.

3) Also, don't tell me that I don't know what I'm doing or I'm making up my own rules by doing so. The rules are not perfect, so give me a break. We work with what we got to work with, period, and we do the best we can with that, period.

1) I'm not saying a damn thing. I'm telling you what the RULES say. The freaking rules dictate what you can do or not do, not me. I don't think that you'll ever be able to figure that out.

2) You can only put time back on the clock under certain restrictions as outlined under the rules. Unfortunately, you don't KNOW the damn rules. That's why you're constantly guessing. And guessing wrong.

3) You don't have a freaking clue what you're doing. You never have had a freaking clue what you are doing. You never will have a freaking clue what you're doing. It doesn't matter squat what anybody here thinks about the rules. We just call 'em. But if YOU don't know the damn rules, YOU just go ahead and make them up anyway.

When are you going to quit impersonating an official, JMO? I hate to break it to you but it sureashell ain't working.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

But if YOU don't know the damn rules, YOU just go ahead and make them up anyway.

JR - your comment here made it all clear to me. Old School works for the Bush administration!!!

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

3) You don't have a freaking clue what you're doing. You never have had a freaking clue what you are doing. You never will have a freaking clue what you're doing. It doesn't matter squat what anybody here thinks about the rules. We just call 'em. But if YOU don't know the damn rules, YOU just go ahead and make them up anyway.

When are you going to quit impersonating an official, JMO? I hate to break it to you but it sureashell ain't working.

I lot of freaking you don't have a clue in your words. Who are you trying to convince so bad that you have to repeat yourself over and over? Actually, I'm glad you feel that way because that just makes you look so much worse then you actually are. How's the kool-aid today?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Old School

I lot of freaking you don't have a clue in your words.

Huh??

Originally Posted by Old School

Who are you trying to convince so bad that you have to repeat yourself over and over? Actually, I'm glad you feel that way because that just makes you look so much worse then you actually are. How's the kool-aid today?

Actually, he's right. You don't have a clue to what people are telling you about your comments.

What if, by some chance, you're the only one drinking the kool-aid?!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

What if, by some chance, you're the only one drinking the kool-aid?!

Sounds like a movie starring Bruce Willis.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Old School

I lot of freaking you don't have a clue in your words. Who are you trying to convince so bad that you have to repeat yourself over and over? Actually, I'm glad you feel that way because that just makes you look so much worse then you actually are. How's the kool-aid today?

OS:

JR's most recent posts do what you either cannot do or will not due, and this is quote chapter and verse to defend his position. You just make things up to suit your "ignorant of the rules" positions. You are not a basketball official. You are a troll. Please leave our forum so that people who really want to learn can learn.

MTD, Sr.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

OS: JR's most recent posts do what you either cannot do or will not due, and this is quote chapter and verse to defend his position.

Therein lies the problem. You can't think beyond the book. You get aproximately 2 feet away from the book and you become ignorant, dumb as a rock because now, you don't know what to do. That's when the name calling starts. The rulebook, any rulebook, the bible has to be able to stand up to criticism. If not, don't hate me because your rulebook/bible is not sound. For instance: you can not legally catch and shoot with .3 seconds or less on the clock. However, you can legally run a play with 00.0 showing on the clock. Nice.

You just make things up to suit your "ignorant of the rules" positions. You are not a basketball official. You are a troll. Please leave our forum so that people who really want to learn can learn.

Sometimes you have to do that Mark. Sometimes you have to defend your call even if it's wrong. I'm a great defender of my calls. Most times I'm right but occassionally I do kick the call. You know what that means Mark, that means I'm not perfect. That's right, I forgot, on this forum you have to be perfect to be a referee. I guess I am not a referee because I know I'm not perfect. However, I do get to officate some great games.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Old School

... has to be able to stand up to criterism.

That's the second time you mentioned "criterism". Are you sure you're not from Wyoming? Try pulling some of that "criterism" here in Oregon and you're going to jail, buddy! It's a baaaaaaaaaaaaahhhd thing!

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Old School

If not, don't hate me because your rulebook/bible is not sound. For instance: you can not legally catch and shoot with .3 seconds or less on the clock. However, you can legally run a play with 00.0 showing on the clock. Nice.

And that would be because it is physically impossible to catch and shoot the ball in 0.3 seconds or less...so you use something that can't happen to try to show that the rulebook has flaws?? That makes no sense...

Didn't really care about his opinion on this, just wanted to be able to get in on this really long, ridiculous thread!!