New Rule

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

2 seconds left in one point game, B is down but with the ball. APTI at the baseline. TI to B3 who catches, turns and immedately shoots, and is fouled by A5. While the ball is in the air, buzzer sounds. I make the call but in order to make sure I got the right player on the foul, I stay focus on the action. Outcome: we gonna shoot 2 shots, put 1 second back on the clock.

Sigh....and we just had a long thread on this exact same play also.

As usual, Old School is completely wrong. And , as usual also, he hasn't learned a damn thing from previous threads.

B3 gets 2 FT's with no time put back on the clock and no one lined up along the lanes.
- if B3 makes both FT's, the game is over with team B winning by one point.
- If B3 makes 1 out 2 FT's, the game is tied and you play OT.
- If B3 misses both FT's, the game is over with team A winning by 1 point.

See rule 5-6-2EXCEPTION3 and case book play 5.6.2SitG.

Silly freaking monkey.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Sigh....and we just had a long thread on this exact same play also.

As usual, Old School is completely wrong. And , as usual also, he hasn't learned a damn thing from previous threads.

B3 gets 2 FT's with no time put back on the clock and no one lined up along the lanes.
- if B3 makes both FT's, the game is over with team B winning by one point.
- If B3 makes 1 out 2 FT's, the game is tied and you play OT.
- If B3 misses both FT's, the game is over with team A winning by 1 point.

See rule 5-6-2EXCEPTION3 and case book play 5.6.2SitG.

Silly freaking monkey.

Okay JRat, you are right about this one.

However, Rule 5 Section 3a Each period ends when time expires
Exception (2) If the officials whistle sounds prior to the horn or 00:0 on the game clock, the period is not over and time must be added to the clock.

Okay, I got my codes mixed up. Now you see why I say this is so dangerous. So many different rulesets, only one game. Why can't we all just get along? No....we got to be silly freaking monkeys because we got the rule wrong. You know, there's an old saying, it takes one to know one, to recognize one, and so, I bequeath upon you today, you are sir the Master Silly Monkey.

You're right about rule and if I kick that in a college/hs game. I'm immediately fired. Yet another major difference in the rulesets. I do believe in college we have the ability to go to the monitor to determine how much time should be put back, if one is being used.

[Scrapper1]

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[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old School

Okay JRat, you are right about this one.

However, Rule 5 Section 3a Each period ends when time expires
Exception (2) If the officials whistle sounds prior to the horn or 00:0 on the game clock, the period is not over and time must be added to the clock.

That's funny, I don't remember exception 2 in the NFHS rules. If you don't see the clock, then you can't put time back on it. If you can't put time back on it, then time has expired. It's not about the period being over (that won't happen until the free throws are attempted.) The rule is driven by whether or not time has expired. And again, if you don't know for sure (definite knowledge), then time has expired.

Originally Posted by Old School

I do believe in college we have the ability to go to the monitor to determine how much time should be put back, if one is being used.

Again with the delusions of grandeur.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

However, Rule 5 Section 3a Each period ends when time expires
Exception (2) If the officials whistle sounds prior to the horn or 00:0 on the game clock, the period is not over and time must be added to the clock.

WTF?

There is no rule 5-3a in either the NFHS rule book or the NCAA rulebook. Are you reading out of the Basketball Rulebook For Silly Monkeys again?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

WTF?

There is no rule 5-3a in either the NFHS rule book or the NCAA rulebook. Are you reading out of the Basketball Rulebook For Silly Monkeys again?

Wreck league Wrules, that's WTF.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

WTF?

There is no rule 5-3a in either the NFHS rule book or the NCAA rulebook. Are you reading out of the Basketball Rulebook For Silly Monkeys again?

Not even in the NBA or the . . . wait for it . . . SEC rulebooks!

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

WTF?

There is no rule 5-3a in either the NFHS rule book or the NCAA rulebook. Are you reading out of the Basketball Rulebook For Silly Monkeys again?

NBA moron, page 21 - you know they have officials too, and guess what, they have a rulebook too. One more thing, I lot more things make sense in their code then in Fed. Not all of us are sissy referee's that only referee kids and can only work out of one rulebook.

[M&M Guy]

...yawnnnn...

Good morning, people.

What'd I miss?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

...yawnnnn...

Good morning, people.

What'd I miss?

Ronnie RecLeague is now using the NBA rulebook to answer ALL rules questions. Other than that, same old, same old.......

[Adam]

So you're using an NBA rule to back up your statement that you can guess (that's what it is, whether you admit it or not)? They don't guess in the NBA, they have a monitor for this. Even if you have a monitor in a fed game, you can't use it. Nice try, but it doesn't help you justify guessing on how much time is left.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

So you're using an NBA rule to back up your statement that you can guess (that's what it is, whether you admit it or not)? They don't guess in the NBA, they have a monitor for this. Even if you have a monitor in a fed game, you can't use it. Nice try, but it doesn't help you justify guessing on how much time is left.

No, the rule is quite specific.

Originally Posted by Old School

However, Rule 5 Section 3a Each period ends when time expires
Exception (2) If the officials whistle sounds prior to the horn or 00:0 on the game clock, the period is not over and time must be added to the clock.

Time must be added back. I consider that normal, Fed. did the adnormal and went with the game is over. Why does this not surprise me? The type of people that supports this are not into making it better, but making it more complicated.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Old School

No, the rule is quite specific.

Time must be added back. I consider that normal, Fed. did the adnormal and went with the game is over. Why does this not surprise me? The type of people that supports this are not into making it better, but making it more complicated.

Actually, the FED made it easier, since they can't have monitors to aid. Also, remember, the FED rule is still held over from when there was a lag time element. If a second or less ticked off the clock after the official blew his whistle, by rule, the official couldn't correct it. Now, with the removal of lag time, we can correct it. However, we can only correct based on what we actually see run off the clock.
This way, there's no guess work involved, and the rule is there to back us up.