New Rule

[Nevadaref]

You have to understand that the SECOND throw-in is NOT an AP throw-in. It is simply a throw-in awarded to a team because the opponent committed a violation (in this case a kicking violation).


Now once you accept that fact, you will agree that there is no reason to switch the arrow after the second throw-in. The AP arrow has nothing to do with this throw-in.

If someone kicked the ball during play and you blew the whistle and administered a throw-in, would you want to switch the arrow at the end of that throw-in? Of course not. The principle is the same here.

[lmeadski]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You have to understand that the SECOND throw-in is NOT an AP throw-in. It is simply a throw-in awarded to a team because the opponent committed a violation (in this case a kicking violation).


Now once you accept that fact, you will agree that there is no reason to switch the arrow after the second throw-in. The AP arrow has nothing to do with this throw-in.

If someone kicked the ball during play and you blew the whistle and administered a throw-in, would you want to switch the arrow at the end of that throw-in? Of course not. The principle is the same here.

Ergo, black is penalized for the violation. Had they NOT kicked the initial throw in, AP would have changed. Correct?

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by lmeadski

Ergo, black is penalized for the violation. Had they NOT kicked the initial throw in, AP would have changed. Correct?

Correct.

[todd66]

oh no! here we go again.

So are you all saying that a kicked ball on an AP throw-in for Team A results in a normal throw-in with Team A retaining the arrow for the next jump ball situation??

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

So are you all saying that a kicked ball on an AP throw-in for Team A results in a normal throw-in with Team A retaining the arrow for the next jump ball situation??

Yes, that's what they're saying.

[SmokeEater]

And if the ball is tipped and then kicked almost simultaneously then the arrow will change...... as long as the tip happens first.

[BktBallRef]

I'll make this as simple as I can.

Held ball.

Team A has the AP arrow.

Thrower A1 throws the ball.

The ball is illegally kicked by B1.

Since the violation occurred before the throw-in ended.

Therefore, the arrow does not change.

The AP situation is now OVER.

The next throw-in is for A because B1 committed a kicking violation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

So are you all saying that a kicked ball on an AP throw-in for Team A results in a normal throw-in with Team A retaining the arrow for the next jump ball situation??

Are you trying to pull me out of retirement?