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Originally Posted by Ref in PA
Your version of "right" may be different than my version of right. Therefore, there must be some standard to go by - and there is. The rule book as it is currently written is that standard. We may disagree with a rule as it is written, but we are obligated to know and enforce the rules as written. Here we discuss what a rule interpretation may actually mean, and yes we get different opinions, but in most cases the rules are clear and the interpretation thereof is also clear. When that is known we must call the game that way. To not adhere to the rule book just because you feel something else is "right" is poor advice. That is what leads to inconsistency from game to game and drives coaches and players nuts.
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bah, bah, bah, don't care what drives coaches nuts, they don't like, get another job. All this rulebook preaching is driving me up the wall. You guys really need to get out more.
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Exactly! You condem and deride the ref that knows the rules. To be a good official requires more than just knowing rules. But you can never be a good official without a good knowledge of the rules. You can have the best court presence in the world but still be considered a crappy ref if you don't know the rules.
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True, but what stands out more, lack of knowledge on the rules or court presence? I can ref 50 or 100 games and not have a .9 second timing issue in the last minutes. Does that mean I'm a bad official? Where do you draw the line? Rule knowledge is very important to being a good official, and i never said it wasn't. I'm just saying that in the absence of that knowledge, I'm going for what I know the best, and that's what I believe is right. Now you get over it! And guess what, I'll still get games.
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This environment is for questions about rules and their interpretations.
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Disagree, try reading some of the threads from the senior members, it is also for commorodity. It is also for sharing expereinces, keeping people in the know. This forum is so much more.
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Contrary to what you believe, your disagreements with rules do not add to the discussion.
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Depends on who's talking and who's listening.
It may not mean much to you, but it means a lot to me. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, never forget that.
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I have read the rulebook several times. To me the rules make sense and are logical.
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I'm happy for you but you still need to get out more.
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As a patched official, I MUST know the rules, I MUST keep current on the changes, my study of the rules MUST be ongoing. I lose respect for those officials who are unwilling to do this, who fake their way through games on inadequate rules knowledge.
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Welcome to the real world. Careful how you use the words respect and disrespect. You would never know an official who is unwilling to do the study or another who is faking. Just look at Tim Donaghy, he was a great accomplished official, but he had a flaw. He faked his way thru games yet he was one of the best. So he would have passed your test. you see, I don't go around saying i like someone because of there knowledge or lack of on the rules. If i lose respect for someone, it would be for the type of person you are, your character, that's it. Doesn't have anything to do with basketball or officiating.