FBI investigating NBA ref

Old School · #1 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 10:08am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

What I find amazing is that you got one clown who's never done anything except some low level rec league ball in his life, and another young official that's never done a high school varsity game in his life either afaik, yet they're both pontificating mightily about the competency of the top NCAA and NBA officials. What's wrong with this picture?

Lah me.....

I really wish we could get could do something about you account. You can't get out of your own way can you? You are like Terrel Owens, great at what you do, but.....

It is NOT illegal to share your opinion on this forum. By these two individuals pontificating as you put it, a very decent discussion has sprung. I for one, have learned more from this discussion and interaction, then reading in a damn rule book. Of course, I don't expect you to understand that but sometimes, I really wish you would stop with the personal attacks, and just pass on the discussion and let us nobody's talk and debate on this forum. Maybe it doesn't help you but others (like myself) may get some benefit from it.

Moderators, it should be illegal to continuously personally attack others on this forum. To use this forum and the data within it, to belittle and berate other officials or forum members should be outlawed. Posts #148 should not be allowed. That is abusing this forum and the data in it. This culture of attacking one another over and over again has produced a lot of unhappy officials. Just look at the number of retired NBA officials that have nothing nice to say about the enterprise that they served for years. From engaging this forum alone, which is a good representation of official associations around the country. I have nothing good to say about the senior leadership here.

Added sentence to post #148.

Have a nice day....

Adam · #2 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 10:11am

See, Jurassic, it's your fault there are unhappy ex-officials. You mean old bast@rd, you.
You hurt its feelings.

Jurassic Referee · #3 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 10:13am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

See, Jurassic, it's your fault there are unhappy ex-officials. You mean old bast@rd, you.
You hurt its feelings.

Gee, I hope that he never finds out that I'm responsible for global warming too.

Jurassic Referee · #4 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 10:12am

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Originally Posted by Old School

It is NOT illegal to share your opinion on this forum.

Yup, and I gave my opinion about you, JMO.

Old School · #5 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 12:40pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Yup, and I gave my opinion about you, JMO.

Point is why? Your opinion about me has nothing to do with the discussion.

Adam · #6 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 12:51pm

When you hear or read someone spouting off his opinion on anything, you judge that opinion in large part on your view of that person's over all credibility; and in particular his credibility on the subject at hand.

Therefore, personal opinions about individual posters are relevant to a discussion in which those posters only contribute opinions.

Old School · #7 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 01:31pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Therefore, personal opinions about individual posters are relevant to a discussion in which those posters only contribute opinions.

Personal opinions of others are never relevent!

Dan_ref · #8 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 01:33pm

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Originally Posted by Old School

Personal opinions of others are never relevent!

That's your opinion of course.

JRutledge · #9 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 01:34pm

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Originally Posted by Old School

Personal opinions of others are never relevent!

Keep that in mind every time you post.

Peace

Adam · #10 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 01:59pm

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Originally Posted by Old School

Personal opinions of others are never relevent!

How else do you judge someone's opinion in the midst of a discussion? The only way to do so is to somehow form an opinion of them, either personally or professionally. It happens all the time in politics, sports, religion, etc. In this age of information, we have to find a way to filter the baby out of the bath water before dumping the bad water down the drain. Therefore, you form the best opinion you can manage of the people offering their opinions; and judge their opinions according to their relative worth.

psujaye · #11 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 02:10pm

(this may have already been discussed but this thread is 13 pages long)
what are everyone's thoughts on handling Donaghy references from coaches/players during a game? Quick & easy tech? i was working a middle school summer league last night and a coach said 'that's a shaving points call'. i bit my whistle on it but it was the first game i worked since the news broke, so i suspect its the first of a plethora of comments.

also- i dug through the casebook/rulebook on this one; happened to me at a camp & i didn't make a call; a player is laying across the midcourt line on the floor with control of the ball in his hands in the frontcourt (his feet are in the backcourt but not touching the floor). Can he pass it to a teammate who is clearly in the backcourt?

Old School · #12 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 03:30pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

How else do you judge someone's opinion in the midst of a discussion? The only way to do so is to somehow form an opinion of them, either personally or professionally. It happens all the time in politics, sports, religion, etc. In this age of information, we have to find a way to filter the baby out of the bath water before dumping the bad water down the drain. Therefore, you form the best opinion you can manage of the people offering their opinions; and judge their opinions according to their relative worth.

Why not just judge what they are saying instead of judging the person.

Judge me for the content of my character and not the color of my skin. Martin Luther King

Jimgolf · #13 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 10:23am

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Originally Posted by Old School

Moderators, it should be illegal to continuously personally attack others on this forum.

It should be illegal to post incorrect information as well. Perhaps you would be better served by lurking instead of posting, unless you are willing to tell the truth about your alleged calls - the level of the game, your actual role, etc.

Please note that any personal attacks that are not related to a post are in fact deleted. However, no one should be allowed to believe that you have ever actually officiated a game other than possibly an intramural or rec league game, and no one should be permitted to follow your advice about anything, unless you post about fantasy officiating. While JR may be caustic in his criticisms, disinformation has to be pointed out immediately.

Why do you bother, anyway? Isn't life too short to pretend to be an official and post fabricated situations?

Old School · #14 (**permalink**) Thu Jul 26, 2007, 10:31am

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Originally Posted by Jimgolf

It should be illegal to post incorrect information as well. Perhaps you would be better served by lurking instead of posting, unless you are willing to tell the truth about your alleged calls - the level of the game, your actual role, etc.

I have never claimed to be god's gift to officiating. Where you state I have posted bad info, I have simply posted my opinion. Maybe what I should do is put a disclaimer on all my posts. I will do that for you and this point. I will say something like info is not verified or maybe inaccurate with the actual rulebook. Would that help?

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Why do you bother, anyway? Isn't life too short to pretend to be an official and post fabricated situations?

Isn't life too short to hate on people you don't know. Certainly, you got to have more going on in your life then to worry about me.