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[Jimgolf]

Originally Posted by Old School

I have seen HS plays where the defense just runs right underneath the offensive player and it be an offensive foul simply because the defense got there first.

You can't run underneath the offensive player and still have gotten there first.

Originally Posted by Old School

That's got to be one of the dumbest rules in the Fed. code.

That's not the rule.

You need to revisit the definitions section of the NFHS rulebook, particularly the definition of Guarding, particularly "4.23.d. If the opponent is airborne, the guard must have obtained legal position before the opponent left the floor.."

For a small fee, and a few hours perusal, the NFHS can set you free from this ignorance.

Buy a rule book. Read it. Learn it. Live it.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

You can't run underneath the offensive player and still have gotten there first.

That's not the rule.

You need to revisit the definitions section of the NFHS rulebook, particularly the definition of Guarding, particularly "4.23.d. If the opponent is airborne, the guard must have obtained legal position before the opponent left the floor.."

For a small fee, and a few hours perusal, the NFHS can set you free from this ignorance.

Buy a rule book. Read it. Learn it. Live it.

Okay, you asked for it. This comment... Okay, here's the deal. Back when this rule was written, basketball was mainly played by slower Caucasian athletes. Now that the athletism and speed of the athlete has increased twofold, that's double the speed of when this rule was written. In order to tell if the defense got there first, we need instant replay. I'm looking for when his foot left the floor as opposed to when the defender got set. Almost impossible to do in this day and age. At best, you are guessing in HS if it is close. Go back and review that video that we discussed at great length.

http://www.sportstricities.com/sport...-8578135c.html

The NBA acknowledge the shortcomings here, where there is many. The ability for the referee to get this call right, the safety of the players involved, and the notion that running underneath a player about to score with the ball is considered good defensive strategy. NOT! Add everything up, we only need the offensive player to have started his final motion or movement to the basket. This will aid the referee to successfully make the right judgment call. Looking for when the offensive players feet left the floor as oppsed to the defenders feet getting set is ridiculous. Things are happening way too fast for me to adequately see all that. The defense can either go for the shot block or the ball, or get the hell out the way. Going for the block and causing a collision, is whacked!!!!

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Old School

Okay, you asked for it. This comment... Okay, here's the deal. Back when this rule was written, basketball was mainly played by slower Caucasian athletes. Now that the athletism and speed of the athlete has increased twofold, that's double the speed of when this rule was written. In order to tell if the defense got there first, we need instant replay. I'm looking for when his foot left the floor as opposed to when the defender got set. Almost impossible to do in this day and age. At best, you are guessing in HS if it is close. Go back and review that video that we discussed at great length.
The NBA acknowledge the shortcomings here, where there is many. The ability for the referee to get this call right, the safety of the players involved, and the notion that running underneath a player about to score with the ball is considered good defensive strategy. NOT! Add everything up, we only need the offensive player to have started his final motion or movement to the basket. This will aid the referee to successfully make the right judgment call. Looking for when the offensive players feet left the floor as oppsed to the defenders feet getting set is ridiculous. Things are happening way too fast for me to adequately see all that. The defense can either go for the shot block or the ball, or get the hell out the way. Going for the block and causing a collision, is whacked!!!!

could someone please post that link to the OS-English translation tool? I can't seem to find it.

[JugglingReferee]

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For OS-related verbiage, I think you also need an officiating philosophy translator as well.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

Okay, you asked for it. This comment... Okay, here's the deal. Back when this rule was written, basketball was mainly played by slower Caucasian athletes. Now that the athletism and speed of the athlete has increased twofold, that's double the speed of when this rule was written.

I get it. We need separate rule books for the white players and the black players.

That might just be the absolute stoopidest thing ever posted on this forum. And considering the number of stoopid posts that you've made, that's sureashell saying something.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I get it. We need separate rule books for the white players and the black players.

That might just be the absolute stoopidest thing ever posted on this forum. And considering the number of stoopid posts that you've made, that's sureashell saying something.

Now that's you putting your spin on it. I said "ATHLETES" are faster, stronger today. That includes, white, black, asian, mexican, chinese, japaneses, and the list goes on. Athletes are faster today then when that rule was written. We can barely referee a high school game now with just 2 officials. Fed rules have not kept up with the day and age we live in. We keep trying to force rules that where written 40, 50 years ago into todays athlete. The game was played completely different back when those rules where written. I doubt that very many people could dunk the ball when that rule was written. Change can be good sometimes JR. We should try to make it better instead of just excepting the way it is.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Old School

We keep trying to force rules that where written 40, 50 years ago into todays athlete. The game was played completely different back when those rules where written.

Again, written with no real knowledge at all of rules-writing.

The rules--NFHS, NCAA & NBA-- have all been amended, altered, revised, etc. every single year going back 50 years. The rules have constantly changed, and are constantly changing, at all levels to keep pace with how the game is changing. If you'd ever read a damn rulebook in your life, you might have known that.

It's sadly apparent that your total knowledge of the rules was gained from watching television. It's even sadder that it doesn't stop you from posting about something that you know absolutely nothing about.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

It's sadly apparent that your total knowledge of the rules was gained from watching television.

No, from playing the games, being in the trenches.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Old School

We should try to make it better instead of just excepting the way it is.

Accepting.

Please please please learn the language. You are frustrating me.

[Adam]

It's like watching Larry the Cable Guy debate, well, anyone. You already know who's going to win, but the trainwreck itself is entertainment. Now, who's got the popcorn?

[Old School]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Accepting.

Please please please learn the language. You are frustrating me.

Damn keyboard....

[dblref]

Originally Posted by Old School

Damn keyboard....

Actually, you should be saying "damn brain".

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Old School

Damn keyboard....

Not bad, OS, not bad!

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Old School

Damn keyboard....

Shouldn't you say "Damn keybored"?

[Jimgolf]

Originally Posted by Old School

Okay, here's the deal. Back when this rule was written, basketball was mainly played by slower Caucasian athletes. Now that the athletism and speed of the athlete has increased twofold, that's double the speed of when this rule was written.

Now we know. Old School is Jimmy the Greek.