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Old Tue Jun 19, 2007, 04:40pm
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You're certainly entitled to your opinion, and if it works for you, that's great. But I've seen it really explode when somebody resents what they perceive as being "talked down to" by another camper. So for me, when I'm at camp, I don't offer advice unless I'm specifically asked.
Same here. When I'm at camp, I'm in "learning mode" and I don't offer much advice to other officials, even if asked. If I need to be a leader to get an inexperienced crew through a game, I'll do that. But if I get asked on how to do certain things, I generally refer my fellow campers to the clinicians.
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Old Tue Jun 19, 2007, 05:01pm
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I am going to one next week. Thanks for all the good advice.
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Old Wed Jun 20, 2007, 08:43am
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One of the most memorable pieces of advice I got from a clinician at a camp was to keep attending camps. He said, "There's a lot of officials who have 10-15 years experience, but they've worked the same 10-15 years because they've never worked on getting better (camps, reading, chatboards, etc.). Never let a year go by where you don't take the time to learn something."

It's like golf. No matter how good you get, you never totally master it. Have any of us ever had the "perfect" game (on the court or on the course)? Just keep doing everything you can to get better and you'll be moving in the right direction.
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Old Wed Jun 20, 2007, 12:20pm
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Have any of us ever had the "perfect" game (on the court or on the course)?
Yes. I have. But it wasn't due to me...the players played such a game that we could have remained in the locker room and the game would have played out the same. We more or less just watched the game. Foul counts of like 2 and 3 in the first half...the same in the second half. It was a cakewalk.
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Old Wed Jun 20, 2007, 03:10pm
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Yes. I have. But it wasn't due to me...the players played such a game that we could have remained in the locker room and the game would have played out the same. We more or less just watched the game. Foul counts of like 2 and 3 in the first half...the same in the second half. It was a cakewalk.
Got you beat in terms of fouls. Had a game last year we had exactly 2 fouls on the board for the 1st half, AAU playoff game, 1 on each team. 2nd half with one minute left to play, we had the exact same thing. Then the team that was down had to foul to put the other team on the F/T line. My partner and I had a internal bet going on to see who was going to call the most fouls in the game. You're right about it being easy. Coaches never said a word, players played their heart out and we just let them play. Got treated to an excellent game of basketball.
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Old Wed Jun 20, 2007, 03:14pm
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Got you beat in terms of fouls. Had a game last year we had exactly 2 fouls on the board for the 1st half, AAU playoff game, 1 on each team. 2nd half with one minute left to play, we had the exact same thing. Then the team that was down had to foul to put the other team on the F/T line. My partner and I had a internal bet going on to see who was going to call the most fouls in the game. You're right about it being easy. Coaches never said a word, players played their heart out and we just let them play. Got treated to an excellent game of basketball.
every scenario that comes up here no matter how far fetched -- even looney toones Padgett and his dateline time scenario -- has been experienced by OS or he has experienced 1 better. He has the experience of 100 Diebler's in officiating.
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Old Wed Jun 20, 2007, 03:27pm
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I have no problem offering or receiving advice at a camp.

It is VERY possible that some clinicians and assigners will be looking for, and expecting, that the "vet" in the crew to be leading the crew, and helping out his/her partners.
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