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Old Fri Jan 28, 2000, 01:56am
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Just trying to touch up on this one, I have forgotten:

Jump ball called - Team A awarded throw-in on the alternating possession. On the throw-in by A-1:

A) A-2 fouls B-1 (while ball is still in A-1's hands). Team B is awarded ball.
B) B-1 fouls A-2 (while ball is still in A-1's hands). Team A is awarded ball.
C) A-1 called for a 5-second violation. Team B is awarded ball.

My question, in all 3 cases, is this:
After the play, the arrow points in what team's direction? Does it stay with Team A, or does the arrow switch to Team B?

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Old Fri Jan 28, 2000, 08:28am
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Arrow does not switch on any of the plays you described. The throw-in must be completed to turn the arrow.
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Old Fri Jan 28, 2000, 08:33am
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The arrow gets flipped when either the throw-in completes or there is a violation. (Case 6.3.5A and succeeding Comment)

So in the first two instances, Team A retains the arrow. In the last play, Team B gets the arrow and the ball because Team A violated.
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Old Fri Jan 28, 2000, 10:38am
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Agreed. The arrow switches on only the violation.
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2000, 12:37am
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Just to clarify on this, when Team A violates on an AP throw-in, Team B gets the ball AND retains the arrow for the next AP situation. See Case 9.2.8

If, however, Team A commits a FOUL before completing the throw-in, Team B gets the ball (assuming there is no bonus situation) and afterwards Team A has the arrow switched back to their side.



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Old Sat Jan 29, 2000, 01:56am
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Just a bit more clarification. The arrow does not change on an AP throw-in until the ball is touched again on the court. So . . . with the violation by team A, team B gets the ball and the arrow is THEN switched in their direction (not "retained," because it was never switched to begin with). On the foul, again the arrow has not been switched yet, so it merely remains in the direction it is still pointing, which is in team A's direction.
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2000, 04:05pm
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A final clarification: When A violates the arrow is changed when the ball is handed to B for the throw-in, not after the throw-in is completed. This ensures that if B then violates, the arrow now is pointing in the direction of A's play.
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2000, 08:10pm
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Um, good point about when the AP arrow actually switches direction--I forgot about that little tidbit. But, I think you were a little off. According to Rule 6-3-4, the arrow is changed "immediately" after the AP throw-in ends, which occurs either when the throw-in itself ends or when the throw-in team violates. That suggests that, in the situation we've been talking about, as soon as team A violates the arrow is changed to team B's direction, THEN team B is handed the ball. The arrow remains pointing in B's direction until THAT throw-in ends or team B violates. That way, if A fouls B before the ball is inbounded, B still keeps the arrow. That sound right?
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Old Sat Jan 29, 2000, 11:49pm
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Yes, Todd, that's correct. Switch the arrow as soon as the throw in is completed or the throwing team violates. Then deal with the subsequent action (e.g., the throw in because of the violation).
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Old Tue Feb 01, 2000, 02:03pm
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I read this board constantly and the information contained on it is great. I thought I understood this situation but I have gotten confused here at the end. Please bear with me and tell me if my scenario is correct.

Team A has the ball for an AP throw-in and violates. The arrow gets switched because A had the ball for an AP throw-in. B now gets the ball for a throw-in (due to the violation, NOT due to the AP arrow). If B then violates, of course A gets the throw-in. But doesn't B keep the arrow since B's throw-in was the result of a violation, not the result of having the arrow.

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