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Mark Dexter Wed Jun 13, 2007 04:01pm

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Originally Posted by blindzebra
No the concept is a cosmetic one, because of the scrutiny D-1 guys are under, that HS officials aren't.

You are trying to impose a philosophy that doesn't belong in a HS game, just like calling a HS game using NBA guidelines isn't a good idea either.

There are plenty of these "concepts" out there, doesn't make them correct or appropriate for lower levels. Most aren't correct for the levels they are at either, but I regress.

I've seen plenty of D-I games with a wide disparity in the foul count.

JRutledge Wed Jun 13, 2007 04:04pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
I'm with Rut on this one. Yes, 99 times out of 100, the disparity is just because of how the teams are playing - in this case, knowing about it might let me address the coach if he complains about it and might keep my crew out of trouble. Also, I don't have a problem with looking at my calls and wondering if there IS something I'm missing. I'm not going to invent or ignore fouls, but maybe I've been stuck on one end of the court for a while and I'm just not getting good angles that night. Knowing about that in advance can help me adjust and make better calls.

This is exactly what I have been saying. I guess it is wrong to evaluate the job you are doing out there. There are times on calls coaches have a point. I have yet to officiate a perfect game.

Peace

JRutledge Wed Jun 13, 2007 04:09pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad
Hey!! How did I get drug into this mess? You're arguing with blindzebra, not me...we haven't disagreed about anything in a long time.

Sorry Rocky, I am going back from one post to another. I will correct the post.

Peace

blindzebra Wed Jun 13, 2007 04:13pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Here is the thing zeb, you asked a question and I gave you and answer. If you do not like the answer, then do not ask the question. It is really that simply. Just because you are insecure in what you do, that does not mean it applies to me.

Peace

Yeah I'm the one who needs to constantly talk about my games, the levels I work, and who I know from camps to make my points...and I'm the insecure one.:rolleyes:

And just for a taste of your own medicine...which one of us worked a state final this year?

See how relevant that was to the discussion?;)

JRutledge Wed Jun 13, 2007 04:25pm

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Originally Posted by blindzebra
Yeah I'm the one who needs to constantly talk about my games, the levels I work, and who I know from camps to make my points...and I'm the insecure one.:rolleyes:

I talked about where I worked; I did not talk about games. Only one of those towns I mentioned has one HS in them. So even the most knowledgeable person might not even know where I worked and level. But you cannot seem to address that and make an assumption.

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Originally Posted by blindzebra
And just for a taste of your own medicine...which one of us worked a state final this year?

See how relevant that was to the discussion?;)

That is a taste of my own medicine? Huh?? :rolleyes: Two of the best officials I in the country are from the surrounding area that I live. One lives in the same town I currently do. Neither has worked HS playoffs in the past 20 years (from what I understand) let alone a State Final. They did work in the NCAA Tournament and were on National TV several times between the two. So let us put State Final accomplishments in perspective.

Peace

blindzebra Wed Jun 13, 2007 04:30pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
I talked about where I worked; I did not talk about games. Only one of those towns I mentioned has one HS in them. So even the most knowledgeable person might not even know where I worked and level. But you cannot seem to address that and make an assumption.



That is a taste of my own medicine? Huh?? :rolleyes: Two of the best officials I in the country are from the surrounding area that I live. One lives in the same town I currently do. Neither has worked HS playoffs in the past 20 years (from what I understand) let alone a State Final. They did work in the NCAA Tournament and were on National TV several times between the two. So let us put State Final accomplishments in perspective.

Peace

So that needs to be in perspective because YOU DIDN'T WORK ONE, huh?;)

JRutledge Wed Jun 13, 2007 04:33pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Dexter
I've seen plenty of D-I games with a wide disparity in the foul count.

All you have to do is see the NCAA Tournament. I believe Ohio State fouled a lot more than most of their opponents on their way to the championship game.

Peace

JRutledge Wed Jun 13, 2007 04:44pm

Do you want to deal with facts?
 
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Originally Posted by blindzebra
So that needs to be in perspective because YOU DIDN'T WORK ONE, huh?;)

Why did I not work a state final? State the facts, not just use innuendo.

Peace


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