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JRutledge Sat Jun 02, 2007 01:25pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins
I have heard many clinicians say something to the effect of "It's better to miss something that did happen than to call something that didn't happen."

I think there aer exceptions to that rule, however.

I have heard clinicians say not to guess on plays, but that is usually associated with not being in position. They are usually not talking about a regular, every day play. Based on the person that cannot get a GT call right (which are not very hard to call at all if you have worked a lot of college ball) I do not think he understands the concept very well.

Peace

JoeTheRef Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:15pm

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler
Rasheed Wallace must not be an NBA star anymore. They sure gave him a royal escort out after his little meltdown with a little more than half the fourth quarter to go. He just never seems to get the calls and the refs are out to get him. Poor Rasheed.:(

When was he ever "star"? And the fanboy site is at www.uranidiot.com. :rolleyes:

JRutledge Sun Jun 03, 2007 01:24am

Wallace needs to go. I am so sick of his act and his whining. Everything is someone else's fault with him. He lost his cool at a critical point in the game. He gave up on his team and himself. He is a lost cause and Dumars needs to dumb his azz.

Peace

Old School Sun Jun 03, 2007 06:35am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
I have heard clinicians say not to guess on plays, but that is usually associated with not being in position. They are usually not talking about a regular, every day play.

That is a bunch of crap, and what color is the sky in your world? A regular everyday play huh? No you moron, it is any play, regular, unregular, everyday, tomorrow, next week, any time it happens play.

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Based on the person that cannot get a GT call right (which are not very hard to call at all if you have worked a lot of college ball) I do not think he understands the concept very well.
I will not argue what you think, we are all entitled to our opinions. My concern is that you don't pass judgment and convict someone for life for kicking one call, especially a call not seen that often. I doubt that there are many coaches making over 6 figures that would argue that the shot was still going up on the GT. It's a quirk and I'm not going to say you can't even get everyday calls right because you miss this one. You live and learn and you move on, or in my case, put the ball back in play.

I told you and everyone that this team could win. They got ballers and in a seven game series the youth start to seperate themselves from the pack. This won't be a cakewalk for the Spurs. I'm happy for Cleveland, Mike Brown and the LeBron. The NBA rules are catered to players like LeBron. So we will see what happens.

Jurassic Referee Sun Jun 03, 2007 06:50am

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Originally Posted by Old School
1) My concern is that you don't pass judgment and convict someone for life for kicking one call, especially a call not seen that often.

2)You live and learn and you move on, or in my case, put the ball back in play.

1) Kicking a call is the same as missing a call. That happens to all officials at some time in their career. However, <b>not</b> knowing a basic rule like goaltending sureashell is <b>not</b> the same as kicking a call. <b>Not</b> being able to make the correct call because you don't <b>know</b> the rules happens to the Old Schools of the world, not to <b>real</b> officials.

2) I get it. Other people live and learn. You don't. You just put the ball back into play. Gee, why doesn't that surprise me?:rolleyes:

bob jenkins Sun Jun 03, 2007 08:18am

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Originally Posted by JoeTheRef
When was he ever "star"? And the fanboy site is at www.uranidiot.com. :rolleyes:

Based on recent postings here, this is turning into a fanboy site.

JRutledge Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:42pm

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Originally Posted by Old School
That is a bunch of crap, and what color is the sky in your world? A regular everyday play huh? No you moron, it is any play, regular, unregular, everyday, tomorrow, next week, any time it happens play.

I will not argue what you think, we are all entitled to our opinions. My concern is that you don't pass judgment and convict someone for life for kicking one call, especially a call not seen that often. I doubt that there are many coaches making over 6 figures that would argue that the shot was still going up on the GT. It's a quirk and I'm not going to say you can't even get everyday calls right because you miss this one. You live and learn and you move on, or in my case, put the ball back in play.

You want to talk about a bunch of crap? First of all I have seen coaches that barely make 4 figures argue that their players should not be called for a GT based on this fact. I worked my first summer games last night and there were a bunch of times a goaltending call was very close.

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Originally Posted by Old School
I told you and everyone that this team could win. They got ballers and in a seven game series the youth start to seperate themselves from the pack. This won't be a cakewalk for the Spurs. I'm happy for Cleveland, Mike Brown and the LeBron. The NBA rules are catered to players like LeBron. So we will see what happens.

Here is the other delusional part of your comments. No one said anything about this team or even cares. This is a competition, of course they can win. What the hell does that have to do with you not knowing basic rules and basic officiating philosophies? Nothing!!!

Peace

dblref Mon Jun 04, 2007 06:22am

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Originally Posted by Old School
I can't guess either. If I'm not sure, I'm not calling it, coach can get piss off all he wants, it ain't gonna change. I did not want to T the coach but he crossed the line, now that I am sure of. I thought it was great game management too.

Would you prefer I guess to make the coach happy?

No, I don't want you to guess. I want you to read the rule book, read the case studies, SEE the play, and make the call. And, don't blame the coach because you are such a screwup.

Scrapper1 Mon Jun 04, 2007 08:11am

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Originally Posted by dblref
Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Dblref, you are not following the advice of your own tagline.


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