Tim Duncan - double T
 

Holy crap...

I wonder what Duncan said....both times..... :eek:

I'm guessing he wasn't inviting him out to dinner after the game! :)

Joey is a hothead. That was ridiculous. It was actually a pretty good game until the best player on the team got kicked out. It wasn't worth watching after that. He should ignore the laughing. Tim Duncan wasn't even on the floor at the time. Apparently Joey Crawford challenged Tim Duncan to a fight. If I was Duncan's size and Crawford challenged me to a fight, I would be laughing too! Hasn't Crawford had to go to anger management before? He does have quite a temper.

Apparently Crawford has a different story. According to him, there was more to it than laughing on the bench, including Duncan supposedly calling him a "piece of sh!t".

There's always two sides to any story, and sometimes the truth is in-between.

The bottom line though is "who cares?". It's the NBA. It's unwatchable any imo.

I sure as he!! hope you brought your own toilet paper to use after crapping on an official like this. Also, you need to clean up after yourself now.

Bingo...I completely agree.

Duncan should be fined. He called Crawford a piece of **** on the way out after being ejected. Crawford let his temper get the best of him in my opinion. How am I crapping on another official? We all make mistakes sometimes. I just thought Joey was way too quick with the toss this time. I would bet Joey would probably choose to ignore the laughing if he had a chance to do it over now that he is cooled off.

Didn't see the game, saw the replay with Duncan laughing and don't have much sympathy for him - he should learn to ignore the officials and focus on the game... always be a disappointing side to Duncan, imo. Go Spurs!! :D

You were OK up until the slur. You can question his judgment. If you question his integrity, you're over the line. It is neither appreciated or tolerated on an officials' web site.

Iow, piss off, fanboy, and don't come back.

Don't take that personally though.....:)

You bet, eh? How do you <b>know</b> what he would do? Were you there and heard every single word that was said? Did you talk to Crawford before making that statement? How do you <b>really</b> know that both technical fouls weren't completely deserved and Crawford was completely right to take care of bidness?

Most <b>officials</b> learn that they have to get the <b>facts</b> before they make a call. We're not supposed to <b>guess</b>. Some officials never learn that, unfortunately.

LOL....just another self-admitted Spurs fanboy, Snaqs. You can't expect anything else from him, like maybe fairness.... integrity....you know, little things that you might expect from an official, but not a fanboy.

http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...786#post337786
http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...605#post313605
http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...912#post310912
http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...743#post310743

There's more, but that sample should do it. You know what you're dealing with now. NCAA fanboy season is over and the NBA fanboy season has officially begun.:rolleyes:

Just curious….
I can’t fault anyone for trying to make an extra buck but when that person does something they know is wrong; they then hide it until someone else (in this case another NBA ref) exposes a consciousness effort by them and others to evade paying taxes; they agree to a felony, pay a fine, and serve (albeit under house arrest) a sentence for the offense…

-is integrity a word that easily rolls off your tongue in defense of that person?


It seems that using the ‘f’ word (fanboy) the best argument some can offer to rebut questions and postings on this site?

I realize the sanctity of ‘an officials website’ is held either just above or below God and Country (based on the emotions used and number of postings), but a couple of really smart people from completely different sides of the spectrum said two things that really have a lot in common.
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Rudeness and personal attacks are the weak person’s imitation of strength.

My background and love of basketball keep me officiating… my business allows me to have season tickets in back of the Spurs bench and occassionally allows me to travel to another city to watch a game. I was at the game in question and could not tell what was said. I think for the most part, only two people really know the facts of the incident.

But it was just an NBA basketball game – and at times it seems that the NBA and basketball are an oxymoron that serve different purposes.

JMK,

It's not that it's the best argument there is, it's that what the poster is looking for is not a well-reasoned, rational response, they just want to vent about their team getting crapped on. Now, I did not see the incident in question, but here's how I might suggest that people keep from getting labeled as fanboys in the future.

In this situation, poster said:

I might suggest something more as follows:

Asking questions about a situation will get you a lot further than simply crapping on the official. It's the immediately crapping on an official that gets you the fanboy label. If you come here with a legitimate question, you'll most likely get some answers, but if you come out of the gate crapping on the official, even if there might be a legitimate question hidden underneath it all, you're like to get ignored.

Yes, when it comes intimating that an official is deliberately favoring one team over another, and also when it comes to slurring an official without knowing all the facts.

2) The word "fanboy" seems to comfortably fit all the whining, crybaby, moronic mopes that come here not to ask about a rule or a call but only to dump on an official.

3) Gee, why aren't I surprised, fanboy? :)

As a Mavs fan and one that has been highly critical of NBA officials, let me say this: in handing out Ts, I think they do a halfway decent job. In years past, they have (in my view) clearly let things go from the star players in the league and busted the "little guys." Now, they are engaging in equal opportunity whacking. Dirk got one earlier in the season (2-3 weeks ago) and I'm sure he deserved it.

I've got serious complaints with the way the NBA is officiated, but I also think that if JC threw someone out, they deserved to get thrown out. He's not going to throw a star out of the game and risk getting yelled at by the league unless the star deserved it. He's not dumb. On the other hand, apparantly, Duncan is!

Without regard to this particular official's tax history, the post that brought JR's response was this:
Now, that part it red is a direct attack on the official's on-court integrity, and is a direct accusation of cheating.
I'm not going to defend any officials off-court integrity unless I know him or her personally. However, without evidence to the contrary, most of us aren't going to sit back and watch officials' on-court integrity get challenged.

So...attacking Crawford's integrity is not a personal attack? Saying that someone who refers to others as fanboys is sincerely ignorant is not a personal attack? Do you have a weak mind? After all, that's what you said rudeness shows...

Conscientious stupidity??? Is that when someone admits they are a fan of a certain team and then gripes about the officials doing "their" team's games?? Isn't conscientious stupidity the same thing as being a fanboy??

Katie bar the doors - it's NBA play-off time again...

Stoopid monkeys.....

You said he may have made the call to get on Cuban's good side. A simple "I was joking," would have sufficed. The "sarcasm" appeared to escape a lot of folks.

Sarcasm usually works best among those who are familiar with you. Otherwise, a few hints of your intent might be helpful.

I'll never understand how anyone can get upset over anything in the NBA. IMO, it is entertainment first, a contest 2nd. The officials are probably the best in the world at calling games using NBA RULES AND MECHANICS. I gave up watching because, overall, I don't like the product.

Neither do very many other people...heard one of those radio guys on ESPN (Cowherd I think) saying that the NBA tv market shares are way down again this year...

This is a BFO (Blinding Flash of the Obvious) and a gratuitous non sequiter.

Michael Jordan didn't go to press conferences dressed for a game. I've never seen a Steve Nash press conference, but I'll bet he looks significantly less greasy when he gets there. What these women look like is irrelevant to Imus' comments, and showing up to a press conference looking "pretty" wasn't as deceptive as you imply.

Also, I really don't see how it even comes close to being relevant to a discussion of Tim Duncan and NBA refs.

Steven, your deflection was wide of the net.

You left out "stoopid f@cking monkeys".

joey
 

First not a fan of the NBA(don't like the product or the officiating)I was watching the game with my Dad who is a NBA fan. I played college basketball & I'm now a college football official. The foul on Duncan was a TERRIBLE call. Next it appeared that Duncan only said "I got fouled" & joey T'd him up. Next the call that joey made that triggered the "laugh" was also a questionable call. The second T was downright horrible. For anyonw on here to defend joey for the second T is a dumbaxx. Stop defending officials for anything they do. People make mistakes, get emotional & do things they wish they hadn't.
I would say I have a large dislike of Duncan(not hate but close). He did not do anything to get the second T. How is laughing on the bench 50 or 60 feet away from the call a T? He didn't look at joey, he wasnt showing him up. joey should be fined & not work any of the spurs playoff games.
ANYONE ON HERE DEFENDING JOEY IS A STRIPE WEARING JACKAXX!

Holy crap....what did I start here? :confused:

BTW - is there any confirmation that Crawford challenged Duncan to fight?

Or is Duncan being his usual whiny self?

Dumbaxx???someone's been tipping the bottle a little bit too much tonight...but ok, I'll play along. Go back and read the whole thread again - nobody defended any call that was made. What people around here get sick and tired of is dumbaxxes that come on this board and make dumbaxx statements like "It appeared that Duncan only..." and then rip on the official. You haven't got a dumbaxx clue what was actually said and have no dumbaxx idea whether Duncan did or said anything to get the second T...do people get emotional? Yep - you obviously did here...do officials - even NBA officials - make mistakes? Yep, and we around here love to discuss and learn from those mistakes (our own included)...but quite a few of us around here take a dim view of people who come on this OFFICIALS DISCUSSION BOARD and bash officials...we would rather that those people go to fanboy sites where they belong. So while I won't defend any call that Joey Crawford made, I can tell you that you don't know what was said on that court, and you obviously didn't read this thread very carefully before posting those dumbaxx comments.

Showing him up is exactly what Duncan doing. Duncan habitually sets a poor example with regards to responding to calls, but he generally keeps it toned down enough to avoid technicals - the incredulous scowl is too familiar on his face. If Crawford was out of line then I'm sure he will get his ear filled by the appropriate people, but for Duncan to carry on like that is a sorry example.

Do you not have any teams that you yourself are a fan of? Enjoying the game as a fan is part of loving the game and when you are an official who is watching the game you are going to have an opinion on their performance. You are applying your moronic comments to another official. :mad:
Yep.

Yes, jk, I'm a big fan of some teams. That doesn't mean that I'm gonna crap on the officials in that sport. I realize that there isn't an official in the world that hasn't, and also won't make a bad call sometime. There's nothing the matter with critiquing an official's call, but when you also question that official's integrity or sense of fairness, then you're way out of line. You can tell me that an official missed a call, but if you tell me that the official missed that call <b>on purpose</b>, then you very simply deserve everything that you get.

Idiotic fanboys don't understand the difference and never will.

There are also officials that I'd go to war with after reading their thoughts on this site. Believe me, <b>you</b> are sureashell not one of 'em. Your comments don't surprise me one bit either. If anything, I expected that <b>you</b> wouldn't get it also. Congratulations! You didn't disappoint me.

Piss off, fanboy. You don't have a clue either what was actually said out there. I thought we got rid of you after you made such a jerk out of yourself whining about the officials in the Texas A&M game. Btw, you told us back then that you were a certified basketball official. Now you've dramatically morphed into a college football official too. What else? Umpiring the World Series this year?

It sureashell is the jerkoff season. They're coming out of the woodwork now.

We don't know what triggered Joey reaction but I can tell this for sure. I think Joey out did himself here. It seems like this was something personal. Something going on off-court that spilled over to the court, and Joey got the last word. What's interesting about this dilemma that Joey and the rest of us are in, is what will the NBA or official supervisors do with Joey.

To me, anything short of sitting his a$$ down for the rest of the playoff's is unacceptable,

I find it amazing that in an auditorium packed with fans, that Joey could even hear Tim from his position on the bench and Tim wasn't screaming at him. We could tell he wasn't screaming from his facial expression. Not to mention that Tim could have been taking about something completely different that what Joey thought he hear.

Bottom line, everyone makes mistakes. , Joey made a mistake. The only thing I care about is they pay for their mistakes just like I had to pay for mind. If they don't get the same punishment that I got when I made mistakes that was far less than what these individuals did, then we got a problem.