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announcers ignorantly criticize officials, lack rules knowledge, and deserve it 41 59.42%
announcers create controversy, generate listeners and are a necessary evil 8 11.59%
criticizing announcers on an officials' forum protects the game of basketball 2 2.90%
criticizng "talking heads" is therapeutic, so who cares? 4 5.80%
dumping on another profession can make your profession look bad 10 14.49%
(Yawn) What was the question? 15 21.74%
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Old Tue Apr 10, 2007, 06:57am
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
1) Oh?
http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...32#post=392632
http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...69#post=389569
http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...63#post=389563
http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...99#post=386399
Seems to me that someone posting under your name sureasheck is questioning Welmer's lack of balls.

2) I agree with that statement fully. It reminds me of you. You get all pissy if someone questions anything about Teddy V's officiating qualities, for instance, but you show absolutely no remorse at all when it comes to dumping on Welmer. I don't have a problem with anybody saying that one official is better than the other, but that doesn't mean that the "other" is a bad official and doesn't have the courage to make tough calls. Welmer wouldn't be working a full schedule in multi major conferences if the assignors for those conferences agreed with you. You can question Welmer's ability and that's certainly OK with me, but when you question his courage, you're going too far imo.

It's no different than a fanboy coming here to complain about a bad call. That usually doesn't draw that much of a reaction. But if the fanboy intimates that an official made that bad call because they were favoring one team over another, then they're questioning the integrity of that official. That will get a nasty response here, as well it should.

That's my opinion, Tom, like it or not, on what I think is appropriate. I really don't expect everybody or anybody to agree with me. It's simply my opinion.
1. Something must be wrong with my computer because those are links to posts where I said Welmer only makes obvious calls - on my screen at least. That is just my opinion - and an opinion shared by some of his fellow officials.
2. This statement makes no sense and isn't related to what I said. I'm not the one that said anything about bashing officials so I don't see how you can say I'm being hypocritical. You are making this up to be sensational without even bothering to connect the dots. Can you find a quote where I got "pissy" when someone said something about Teddy V? Teddy V's ability over the years speaks for itself. He isn't a perfect official, but he will go down as one of the great college officials of all time. Until something changes, Welmer's legacy will be 120+ games a year.

I do not think of Welmer as an official who favors one team or another. I also don't think of Welmer as a horrible official - but I sure don't see him as an elite official either.
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